That filter location on the EJ is easily manageable. I'm no fan of flat fours in watercooled cars, but how else are you going to package the close coupled converter if that engine design has the filter boss where it is.LOL! **** tier engineering like that is reason enough to avoid a vehicle (what else did they half-ass?)
Both of my current vehicles are top filters with super easy access.
Like I said EJ253. Your son has the FB20 engine. From approx mid 1990 through early 2012 for the EJ25. Not all years/models had the exhaust wrap around the filter; our Foresters did.Not sure what Subaru you are referring to there. My son’s 2020 Impreza Premium has the oil filter under the hood in plain sight and super easy reach. You could hardly get easier oil filter access than that.
That filter location on the EJ is easily manageable. I'm no fan of flat fours in watercooled cars, but how else are you going to package the close coupled converter if that engine design has the filter boss where it is.
I'll tell you the classic longitudinal engine layout is with the effort and some minor compromises,
Subaru put the filter up top on the redesign of this and the 2 litre. That has it's problems because the filter empties in about an hour after shutoff and you will get subsequent dry starts. They also went to hydraulic lash adjusters. Now That is a recipe for failure for addressing a "problem" and complaint that didnt really need fixing.
So I think the fix is stupid.
Interestingly Toyota has seemed to have gone back to the spin on type filter on some models as opposed to the cartridge type, thankfully.Was it the GM 3.4 or the 3.8 that had the filter mounted on the passenger side towards the wheel well? hated that spot! And if I remember you had to reach your hand over a hot exhaust pipe (because of course GM would).
And I’ll tell yeah, I’m not a fan of Toyota’s oil filters/canisters. Took a lot of the fun out of my oil changes.
I just did a cartridge on a Tundra recently. Not a fan. If it was like a BMW or Mercedes where it can be serviced up too, I would be happier. The skid plate has to come off in any case.Interestingly Toyota has seemed to have gone back to the spin on type filter on some models as opposed to the cartridge type, thankfully.
My dad's 2016 4 cyl. Camry uses the cartridge type, and my uncles 2018 Camry 4 cyl. uses the spin on type. I change oil on both of them.
I must be the only one who likes the Toyota cartridge setup. They do not bother me at all. The filter setup on my Ram 5.7 is far, far worse.Interestingly Toyota has seemed to have gone back to the spin on type filter on some models as opposed to the cartridge type, thankfully.
My dad's 2016 4 cyl. Camry uses the cartridge type, and my uncles 2018 Camry 4 cyl. uses the spin on type. I change oil on both of them.
When I bought my '86 Volvo 740 Turbo I checked the non turbo 740s and the oil filter was right out in the open. But then they hid it on the Turbo versions.When considering a new vehicle I always look under it for location and type of oil filter and drain plug for easy O.C.s .
Interesting, didn’t realize they have started using the spin on filters again. Good to know.Interestingly Toyota has seemed to have gone back to the spin on type filter on some models as opposed to the cartridge type, thankfully.
My dad's 2016 4 cyl. Camry uses the cartridge type, and my uncles 2018 Camry 4 cyl. uses the spin on type. I change oil on both of them.
So poor, that the Wife's last 2017 Crosstrek was one of the best cars we have ever owned.So, poor engineering to fix poor engineering AND cost cutting.
Of course not. It becomes one of many things that factor into a vehicle decision."When considering a new vehicle I always look under it for location and type of oil filter and drain plug for easy O.C.s."
Sure, we look for location and type of filter and drain plug but PREFER easy O.C.s.
None of us are going to buy a vehicle we hate just because it has easier access.
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