Wix Part # Change- VW 2.0

[The Critic]

Upon my look-up for the Wix equivalent part # for a VW 2.0L engine today, I noticed that Wix no longer recommends the usage of the "51342" filter in this application. It now recommends the usage of the "51393" filter, which is the oversized filter recommended for the VW 1.8T engines in the Passat and A4. The Napa catalog has also been updated as well.

I know that FRAM is still recommending the "PH2870A" in the VW 2.0L application, and ExxonMobil is still recommending the usage of the "M1-205" part #.

Pete: Do you happen to know what prompted Wix to make this change?

 

[wavinwayne]

quote:

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Originally posted by Michael Wan:
It [Wix] now recommends the usage of the "51393" filter, which is the oversized filter recommended for the VW 1.8T engines in the Passat and A4.

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Michael,

A minor correction is in order.

Wix #51393 is the standard size 1.8T filter.

Wix #51191 is the oversized 1.8T filter (I'm currently running the Napa Gold equivalent #1191 on my 1.8T)

The biggest difference between the 51393 & the 51342 is the BPV setting.

 

[The Critic]

Wayne,

Here are my findings:

For the longitudinally-mounted, VW 1.8T engine in the Passat and A4, FRAM recommends the usage of the PH3569 filter per the oversized filter requirements of the VW TSB.

For the transversely-mounted VW 1.8T engine in the GTI and Jetta, FRAM recommends the usage of the PH2870A filter.

The PH2870A filter, which is equivalent to the Purolator PL20252 and Mobil 1 M1-205 filter, ALL cross-over to the Wix 51342.

I went ahead and looked up a 03 Passat 1.8T, and Wix recommends a 51393.

On Purolator's website, an 03 GTI 1.8T and Jetta 1.8T BOTH specify a "PL20252" type filter, whereas, the 03 Passat 1.8T specifies a "PL30257" type filter.

Now I'm confused.

 

[wavinwayne]

I think I can clear up your confusion.

Start with the filter that VW recommends for each vehicle, then see what cross ref's to it.

Now to add to your confusion......I have two Purolators sitting in the garage waiting to be used on my '00 1.8T. One is an L30257; the other is an L40316.

Go figure those out.

In conclusion, here is a list of the filters I have used on my '00 GTI 1.8T:

Fram PH2870A
VW 06A 115 561B
Mobil 1 M1-205
Mobil 1 M1-301
Purolator Pure One PL20252
Napa Gold 1191

"Little Red" couldn't care less which filter I use.

 

[The Critic]

You're trying to add to my headache on a Saturday night, aren't you...

:evil:

L40316--->51333, so the "super-sized," but non-approved filter.

L30257--->OEM recommended filter for the longitudinally mounted VW 1.8T engines.

068 115 561B--->Oversized filter for longitudinally mounted 1.8T, as required by VW TSB. X-ref to L30257.

06A 115 561B--->Recommended filter for the transversely mounted VW 1.8T engines in the Jetta and GTI, previously recommended filter for the longitudinally mounted 1.8T, cross-references to the L20252.

In conclusion, the L20252 was the filter recommended originally for ALL 1.8T engines, prior to the sludge bulletin. The sludge bulletin required the usage of the larger filter, but only for the longitudinally mounted 1.8T engines, hence the recommendation of the L30257. Since I don’t remember the previous Wix part # recommended for the VW 2.0 engines before they updated the catalog last Monday, I’ll have to check with Gary, who has an older Wix catalog, but I’m guessing that the 51342 was the previous recommendation for the transversely mounted 1.8T. The 51393 is now recommended by Wix for all VW 1.8T and 2.0 applications though.

FWIW, I think I'll use a Napa 1393 instead of the Purolator or M1 equivalent next time as Wix actually recommends the oversized filter to be used in the 2.0 application, whereas, M1 or Purolator do not.

 

[The Critic]

I'm an idiot

and I stand corrected.

After more research, the Napa 1191 is actually the correct filter for the longitudinally mounted 1.8T, and the 1393 was the correct filter for the transversely mounted 1.8T. There was no change in part #s.

As for why Wix still recommends the 1393 filter for the Passat, I have no clue.

Also, no "PL30257" exists; only a "L30257" exists.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Gary Allan]

51342
VOLKSWAGEN CABRIO L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN CABRIOLET L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN CORRADO L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN DASHER L4 1.5L 1471cc
VOLKSWAGEN DASHER L4 1.6L 1588cc
VOLKSWAGEN FOX L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF/GTI L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF/GTI L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 1.6L 1588cc
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 1.7L 1715cc
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN KARMANN GHIA H4 1.6L 1584cc
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN PICKUP L4 1.6L 1588cc
VOLKSWAGEN PICKUP L4 1.7L 1715cc
VOLKSWAGEN QUANTUM L4 1.7L 1715cc
VOLKSWAGEN QUANTUM L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN QUANTUM L5 2.2L 2144cc
VOLKSWAGEN QUANTUM L5 2.2L 2226cc
VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT L4 1.5L 1457cc
VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT L4 1.5L 1471cc
VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT L4 1.6L 1588cc
VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT L4 1.7L 1715cc
VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO L4 1.5L 1457cc
VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO L4 1.5L 1471cc
VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO L4 1.6L 1588cc
VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO L4 1.7L 1715cc
VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN THING H4 1.6L 1584cc
VOLKSWAGEN VANAGON L4 1.9L 1915cc

51191

Make Model Engine
AUDI 90 V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI 90 QUATTRO V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI A4 L4 1.8L 1781cc
AUDI A4 V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI A4 V6 2.8L 2771cc (5V)
AUDI A4 CABRIOLET L4 1.8L 1781cc
AUDI A6 V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI A6 V6 2.8L 2771cc (5V)
AUDI CABRIOLET V6 2.8L 2771cc
VOLKSWAGEN DASHER L4 1.5L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN DASHER L4 1.6L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN EUROVAN L4 1.9L 1896cc Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF/GTI L4 1.6L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF/GTI L4 1.9L 1896cc Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 1.6L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 1.9L 1896cc Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT L4 1.9L 1896cc Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT V6 2.8L 2771cc
VOLKSWAGEN PICKUP L4 1.5L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN PICKUP L4 1.6L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN QUANTUM L4 1.6L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT L4 1.5L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT L4 1.6L Diesel
VOLKSWAGEN VANAGON L4 1.6L Diesel

51393

AUDI 100 L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 100 V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI 100 QUATTRO L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 100 QUATTRO V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI 100 SERIES L4 1.8L 1760cc
AUDI 100 SERIES L4 1.9L 1871cc
AUDI 200 L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI 200 QUATTRO L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI 4000 L4 1.6L 1588cc
AUDI 4000 L4 1.7L 1715cc
AUDI 4000 L4 1.8L 1780cc
AUDI 4000 L5 2.2L 2144cc
AUDI 4000S QUATTRO L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI 5000 L5 2.2L 2144cc
AUDI 5000 L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI 5000 L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 5000S QUATTRO L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI 5000S QUATTRO L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 80 L4 2.0L 1986cc
AUDI 80 L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 80 QUATTRO L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 90 L4 1.8L 1760cc
AUDI 90 L4 2.0L 1986cc
AUDI 90 L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 90 V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI 90 QUATTRO L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI 90 QUATTRO V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI A4 L4 1.8L 1781cc
AUDI A4 V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI A4 AVANT L4 1.8L 1781cc
AUDI A4 CABRIOLET L4 1.8L 1781cc
AUDI A6 V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI CABRIOLET V6 2.8L 2771cc
AUDI COUPE/COUPE QUATTRO L5 2.2L 2144cc
AUDI COUPE/COUPE QUATTRO L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI COUPE/COUPE QUATTRO L5 2.3L 2309cc
AUDI FOX L4 1.5L 1471cc
AUDI FOX L4 1.6L 1588cc
AUDI QUATTRO L5 2.2L 2144cc
AUDI QUATTRO L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI RS6 V8 4.2L 4172cc
AUDI S4 L5 2.2L 2226cc
AUDI SUPER 90 L4 1.8L 1760cc
AUDI TT L4 1.8L 1781cc
AUDI TT COUPE L4 1.8L F.I. Turbo (20V)
AUDI TT QUATTRO L4 1.8L 1781cc
AUDI TT QUATTRO L4 1.8L H.O. Turbo (20V)
AUDI TT ROADSTER L4 1.8L H.O. Turbo (20V)
LOTUS ELAN SERIES L4 1.6L 1558cc
LOTUS LOTUS SEVEN 4 Cyl 1599cc
VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE L4 1.8L 1781cc Turbo
VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE L4 1.8L H.O.Turbo (20V)
VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN CABRIO L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF/GTI L4 1.8L 1781cc Turbo
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF/GTI L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN GTI L4 1.8L 1781cc Turbo
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 1.8L 1781cc Turbo
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA L4 2.0L 1984cc
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT L4 1.8L 1781cc
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT L4 1.8L 1781cc Turbo
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT L4 2.0L 1984cc

 

[The Critic]

So either the 51342 or 51393 will work for a VW 2.0 despite their different bypass valve pressures?

 

[Gary Allan]

According to WIX they do

I can't tell if they are for the same years though. Like I don't see any "Rabbits" in the 51393 ..so that sorta dates the 51342 to when they were on the market.

OTOH ..You do see 2.0 Passats in both ...but "I don't do Volkswagen" ..so I don't quite know when the models were introduced or were no longer offered..like I don't even know if they still offer a GTI anything