Will this Strike Kill Ford/Chevy/Chrysler?
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And how about Yellow Freight? 99 years old and now gone.
History is full of those examples.
Kmart, Sears, ,Eastern and Pan Am. Trump University.. you get the point..
One thing for sure is their failures had little to do with their employee pay rate and alot to do with executive level decisions.
They all laid down with the Government, too many bureaucrats calling the shots and not enough serious vehicle experts being listened to.
The fundamental issue with the logic of this post is that if the UAW requested normal cost of living increases, they would get only half of that at best. That's the way these negotiations work. If they negotiated in good faith, they'd get bent to the rail just like they did in 2007. They need to start high and meet somewhere in the middle.
If the UAW negotiated 'reasonably', every single person currently complaining about the UAW wouldn't care whatsoever when they get taken advantage of again. Good for them for holding their ground.
Spot on. Innovation is a key component for growth.
Actually the majority of them are exactly feeling as you mention. I still talk to many of the employees I used to supervise at my GM plant (I retired last Aug) and they are all just wanting their COLA back, some type of raise to bring them up to where they should be but they think think 30-40% is too much and they want their healthcare to stay as is. That's it - they are being reasonable overall - it's the top UAW brass that is taking it further than what the average uaw employee actually is wanting. They have not had a raise since 2008 and they are asking for basically what they should be paid had they been getting normal raises. Lastly - no one I spoke to wants a 32hr work week. That is just stupid. Lastly - everyone of my past employees stated they DO NOT like how Fain is handling the strike with his strategy.
That makes perfect sense. When I read and listen to news what jumps out is a 40% pay hike and 32 hours for a work week. I find that humorous, I realize you have to start somewhere but lets be real. I'm all for people making money, however I have no problem telling someone something is ridiculous when negotiating. What business owner in their right mind is going to pay OT after 32 hours? I wouldn't! Fain IMO is trying to make a name for himself, at the expensive of the workers, that's not good!!
That is almost like saying the CEOs pay benefits the corporation and comsumers.
I didn't say anything like that. I'm writing about the demands set by the UAW. They either compromise and strike a deal or keep walking the picket line, that's the sad reality here.
In the worst case the taxpayers will bail out the corporation as history repeats itself. . The major auto manufactures are important to the US war machine in times of major conflicts.
I hope it doesn't come down to that.
I agree and that is also the people building them too...
I have no doubts that GM, Ford, and whatever the foreign parent company of Chrysler is calling itself these days produce much better motor vehicles than they did thirty years ago.
I also have no doubt that they're now being run by second string senior managements that seem unable to come up with rational or even coherent product plans.
Lets build trucks since that's where the money is today is not a viable long term plan, but there seems to be little planning beyond that. When the market turns, as it will, the lack of car models will prove daunting, while the Korean and Japanese makers will be positioned to provide for that change in demand without missing a beat.
None of this can be blamed on the UAW or any other workers.
That the UAW is demanding that its members be paid a fair wage is hardly unreasonable.
I also have no doubt that they're now being run by second string senior managements that seem unable to come up with rational or even coherent product plans.
Lets build trucks since that's where the money is today is not a viable long term plan, but there seems to be little planning beyond that. When the market turns, as it will, the lack of car models will prove daunting, while the Korean and Japanese makers will be positioned to provide for that change in demand without missing a beat.
None of this can be blamed on the UAW or any other workers.
That the UAW is demanding that its members be paid a fair wage is hardly unreasonable.
If you are not getting what you want at a job you have, then just quit, and get something better.
Anyone rooting for uaw getting more this or that has zero complaints about the prices of cars and trucks.
Its really that simple.
And is why an $1800. truck in 1957 is now hitting the $100,000. mark.
Anyone rooting for uaw getting more this or that has zero complaints about the prices of cars and trucks.
Its really that simple.
And is why an $1800. truck in 1957 is now hitting the $100,000. mark.
