Hi. Why doesn't Mobil 1 make a 0w50 available in the US? http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1.aspx
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Why doesn't Mobil 1 make a 0-50?
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Originally Posted By: ARMY_Guy
Hi. Why doesn't Mobil 1 make a 0w50 available in the US? http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1.aspx
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Originally Posted By: ARMY_Guy
Hi. Why doesn't Mobil 1 make a 0w50 available in the US? http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1.aspx
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They make a racing 0W50 but the price is comedic!
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
They make a racing 0W50 but the price is comedic!
And if the published HTHSV and VI spec's are correct, it is actually a bit lighter than M1 0W-40. Besides the massive ZDDP level would be corrosive for regular street use.
The only 0W-50's on the market that I know of are made by ENEOS and Sustina and as we have recently found out with Sustina it is not a 50wt oil at all but a light 40wt.
They make a racing 0W50 but the price is comedic!
And if the published HTHSV and VI spec's are correct, it is actually a bit lighter than M1 0W-40. Besides the massive ZDDP level would be corrosive for regular street use.
The only 0W-50's on the market that I know of are made by ENEOS and Sustina and as we have recently found out with Sustina it is not a 50wt oil at all but a light 40wt.
Because the response from many car enthusiasts would be "because it is too thin for my engine"
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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Because the response from many car enthusiasts would be "because it is too thin for my engine"
Yep. Working for Auto Zone, I've learned that regular folks "non-BITOGers" are scared of 0W-xx oils.
Because the response from many car enthusiasts would be "because it is too thin for my engine"
Yep. Working for Auto Zone, I've learned that regular folks "non-BITOGers" are scared of 0W-xx oils.
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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Because the response from many car enthusiasts would be "because it is too thin for my engine"
Yep. Working for Auto Zone, I've learned that regular folks "non-BITOGers" are scared of 0W-xx oils.
Yup
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
He was good with "getting" the concept of the "winter" rating though, and then made a joke about why he now realized that running 20w-50 in his truck in the winter wasn't a great idea, LOL!
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Because the response from many car enthusiasts would be "because it is too thin for my engine"
Yep. Working for Auto Zone, I've learned that regular folks "non-BITOGers" are scared of 0W-xx oils.
Yup
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
He was good with "getting" the concept of the "winter" rating though, and then made a joke about why he now realized that running 20w-50 in his truck in the winter wasn't a great idea, LOL!
You should start every discussion with someone about viscosity with the question "Do you agree oil thins out as it gets hotter?" and go from there....
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The question is, why on earth do they make a 0w50 at all? I can't imagine very many engines out there at all that need an oil of this viscosity. Their 0w40 is already a great oil, what benefit would it be to go any thicker than this??
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I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
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Originally Posted By: Patman
The question is, why on earth do they make a 0w50 at all? I can't imagine very many engines out there at all that need an oil of this viscosity. Their 0w40 is already a great oil, what benefit would it be to go any thicker than this??
I sort've wonder the same thing. Pennzoil makes GT Racing 25W50 and Valvoline makes VR1 50 and 60. Surely dedicated racing applications don't need a 0W oil?
The question is, why on earth do they make a 0w50 at all? I can't imagine very many engines out there at all that need an oil of this viscosity. Their 0w40 is already a great oil, what benefit would it be to go any thicker than this??
I sort've wonder the same thing. Pennzoil makes GT Racing 25W50 and Valvoline makes VR1 50 and 60. Surely dedicated racing applications don't need a 0W oil?
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Surely dedicated racing applications don't need a 0W oil?
DO NOT tell this^^^ to CATERHAM!!
Surely dedicated racing applications don't need a 0W oil?
DO NOT tell this^^^ to CATERHAM!!
Well, if a hot 40 turns into a 30 something, wouldn't a hot commercially viable / no-racing 50 turn into a 40 something?
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Originally Posted By: Patman
The question is, why on earth do they make a 0w50 at all? I can't imagine very many engines out there at all that need an oil of this viscosity. Their 0w40 is already a great oil, what benefit would it be to go any thicker than this??
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Originally Posted By: Patman
The question is, why on earth do they make a 0w50 at all? I can't imagine very many engines out there at all that need an oil of this viscosity. Their 0w40 is already a great oil, what benefit would it be to go any thicker than this??
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Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
LOL!!
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
LOL!!
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
Yes, sometimes I am afraid to wear my Amsoil Racing shirt (especially in THIS town!), since it says in BIG bold letters on the back "Synthetic Lubricants"!
MANY just assume the WRONG thing.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
MANY just assume the WRONG thing.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
LOL!!
LOL!
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I had to explain that Mobil 1 0w-40 wasn't a "zero weight" and "like water" to my wife's friend's boyfriend the other day.
I refuse to talk about lubricants with my wife's boyfriend. I mean...wife's friend's boyfriend.
LOL!!
LOL!
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Surely dedicated racing applications don't need a 0W oil?
DO NOT tell this^^^ to CATERHAM!!
Actually no one tries to make a 0W-XX racing oil, it's just a result of using the best high VI synthetic oil base stocks.
That said, the M1 0W-50 is not a heavy oil with it's HTHSV of 3.8cP and 189 VI. The only reason it's labelled as a 50wt oil is because it has an unusually high KV100 spec' relative to it HTHSV; the highest I've ever seen.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Surely dedicated racing applications don't need a 0W oil?
DO NOT tell this^^^ to CATERHAM!!
Actually no one tries to make a 0W-XX racing oil, it's just a result of using the best high VI synthetic oil base stocks.
That said, the M1 0W-50 is not a heavy oil with it's HTHSV of 3.8cP and 189 VI. The only reason it's labelled as a 50wt oil is because it has an unusually high KV100 spec' relative to it HTHSV; the highest I've ever seen.
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