It seems like every time there's a big winter storm, there's a resulting traffic pile-up somewhere because people just refuse to stay off the roads even when they're impassable. I don't know if it's stupidity, bone-headed stubbornness, or a fear of losing ones job that causes these massive wrecks, but logic tells me to stay off the roads when they get like this. These conditions don't last forever, and normally, if people would just stay home for 24 hours, either the conditions will have passed, or road crews will have the roads cleared off, or both. Employers who are telling their employees they must show up for work or else should be held responsible for anything and everything bad that happens to their employees who try to make it to work. Shame on you!
Why can't people stay home?
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I agree 100%. Critical thinking is lost in this country.
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Even all-wheel drive is no good when the roads are clogged with other vehicles!
Even all-wheel drive is no good when the roads are clogged with other vehicles!
I am retired. But my old employer of 30 years would hold you as absent if you did not show up in a raging snowstorm. It affected your review and therefore your chances for promotion and raises. One time we fought our way in three cars in a raging blizzard from SE PA to central NY state for a materials testing regimen. One car finally turned around and went back as they were afraid to go on. The next day they were called in and reamed out with their future employment being questioned.
So don't be too critical of folks.
So don't be too critical of folks.
No bad weather here but i wish they had stayed home. Im standing in line at the dmv. Got here 45 mins early but im still 1\4 mile away standing in the line.
Originally Posted By: Boomer
I am retired. But my old employer of 30 years would hold you as absent if you did not show up in a raging snowstorm. It affected your review and therefore your chances for promotion and raises. One time we fought our way in three cars in a raging blizzard from SE PA to central NY state for a materials testing regimen. One car finally turned around and went back as they were afraid to go on. The next day they were called in and reamed out with their future employment being questioned.
So don't be too critical of folks.
Employers who do this need to be reported to the labor board. It's asinine for employers to hold anything against employees for not showing up to work when conditions are life threatening...
I am retired. But my old employer of 30 years would hold you as absent if you did not show up in a raging snowstorm. It affected your review and therefore your chances for promotion and raises. One time we fought our way in three cars in a raging blizzard from SE PA to central NY state for a materials testing regimen. One car finally turned around and went back as they were afraid to go on. The next day they were called in and reamed out with their future employment being questioned.
So don't be too critical of folks.
Employers who do this need to be reported to the labor board. It's asinine for employers to hold anything against employees for not showing up to work when conditions are life threatening...
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
My occupation as many others have too do not allow me to take off even in a level 3.
So if you attempt to go to work and end up getting stranded in one of these massive traffic pile-ups, your employer will hold that against you in a negative way?
My occupation as many others have too do not allow me to take off even in a level 3.
So if you attempt to go to work and end up getting stranded in one of these massive traffic pile-ups, your employer will hold that against you in a negative way?
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Sure...just hope you aren't the one bleeding out because the entire ER crew stayed home! Some people just CANNOT stay home!
What good are ER techs if they can't get to work? And I highly doubt all of the people involved in the massive pile-ups are people who are on their way to a matter of life or death job. What about all of the semis that are always involved in these crashes? They could certainly stay off the roads until they're in better condition...
Sure...just hope you aren't the one bleeding out because the entire ER crew stayed home! Some people just CANNOT stay home!
What good are ER techs if they can't get to work? And I highly doubt all of the people involved in the massive pile-ups are people who are on their way to a matter of life or death job. What about all of the semis that are always involved in these crashes? They could certainly stay off the roads until they're in better condition...
Originally Posted By: Win
So, start your own business and set an example for other employers.
That's more difficult than whining on the internet, but more likely to bring about positive (as you see it) change.
All I am saying is employers should use a little common sense...telling employees they must show up or else when they know darn well the roads are impassable is just plain stupid and bullheaded...
So, start your own business and set an example for other employers.
That's more difficult than whining on the internet, but more likely to bring about positive (as you see it) change.
All I am saying is employers should use a little common sense...telling employees they must show up or else when they know darn well the roads are impassable is just plain stupid and bullheaded...
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Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
My occupation as many others have too do not allow me to take off even in a level 3.
So if you attempt to go to work and end up getting stranded in one of these massive traffic pile-ups, your employer will hold that against you in a negative way?
Yes!
Unless they send a notice to the TV or radio station giving an official shutdown, you have to come in to work. And unless there is a blinding blizzard or a complete regional shutdown, you had better be there or take a day vacation.
I have worked for three major aerospace firms and this was the policy. Yea, stupid I know.
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
My occupation as many others have too do not allow me to take off even in a level 3.
So if you attempt to go to work and end up getting stranded in one of these massive traffic pile-ups, your employer will hold that against you in a negative way?
Yes!
Unless they send a notice to the TV or radio station giving an official shutdown, you have to come in to work. And unless there is a blinding blizzard or a complete regional shutdown, you had better be there or take a day vacation.
I have worked for three major aerospace firms and this was the policy. Yea, stupid I know.
The question that should be asked is ...
Why are people NOT prepared for the snow?
I had no problem getting to work this morning. A lot of people did - there were a lot of wrecks from people over driving conditions. Also a lot of cars stuck on roads, etc from having vehicles ill equipped for driving in the snow.
I keep a shovel, extra shoes / socks, gloves, hat in my car AND the car is equipped with snow tires (as is my 4x4).
We *only* got 10 inches of snow. That's not major for a city like Syracuse. Sure, the city, state and county have been backing off in their plowing the last few years but just be prepared and do your best.
I don't even think about it twice. We get a lot of snow, I automatically get up early and go out an hour early to shovel a path to my car and to the road if needed. If we get a few feet of snow, I'll hop in the Cherokee and drive it to work.
If it were an ice storm or actual dangerous travel conditions, I would strongly consider staying home that day.
Why are people NOT prepared for the snow?
I had no problem getting to work this morning. A lot of people did - there were a lot of wrecks from people over driving conditions. Also a lot of cars stuck on roads, etc from having vehicles ill equipped for driving in the snow.
I keep a shovel, extra shoes / socks, gloves, hat in my car AND the car is equipped with snow tires (as is my 4x4).
We *only* got 10 inches of snow. That's not major for a city like Syracuse. Sure, the city, state and county have been backing off in their plowing the last few years but just be prepared and do your best.
I don't even think about it twice. We get a lot of snow, I automatically get up early and go out an hour early to shovel a path to my car and to the road if needed. If we get a few feet of snow, I'll hop in the Cherokee and drive it to work.
If it were an ice storm or actual dangerous travel conditions, I would strongly consider staying home that day.
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Win
So, start your own business and set an example for other employers.
That's more difficult than whining on the internet, but more likely to bring about positive (as you see it) change.
All I am saying is employers should use a little common sense...telling employees they must show up or else when they know darn well the roads are impassable is just plain stupid and bullheaded...
So call them up and tell them that. Or lead by example.
I give my employees the choice - if they want to come in to work and make money, fine, if not, that's fine also. I certainly don't expect anyone to crack up their car getting to work.
That's the norm for mom and pop business around here. It's big business that doesn't give a rat's rear end about employees.
Originally Posted By: Win
So, start your own business and set an example for other employers.
That's more difficult than whining on the internet, but more likely to bring about positive (as you see it) change.
All I am saying is employers should use a little common sense...telling employees they must show up or else when they know darn well the roads are impassable is just plain stupid and bullheaded...
So call them up and tell them that. Or lead by example.
I give my employees the choice - if they want to come in to work and make money, fine, if not, that's fine also. I certainly don't expect anyone to crack up their car getting to work.
That's the norm for mom and pop business around here. It's big business that doesn't give a rat's rear end about employees.
Just checked the local newspaper's web site - I missed this accident / back up by seconds.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2...t_river_default
In the picture there is a car that hit the median and spun out (under where it says SOUTH or right above the police car). I was probably 10 seconds behind them when they got sucked into the barrier.
Luckily I left enough space and was able to slow down and switch lanes and keep going before anything got ugly for me.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2...t_river_default
In the picture there is a car that hit the median and spun out (under where it says SOUTH or right above the police car). I was probably 10 seconds behind them when they got sucked into the barrier.
Luckily I left enough space and was able to slow down and switch lanes and keep going before anything got ugly for me.
We've had a couple days of high winds and snow here lately and I completely agree with the idea of staying home.
I gotta be onsite no matter what however I understand if guys don't come. If I has any choice I wouldn't either.
I gotta be onsite no matter what however I understand if guys don't come. If I has any choice I wouldn't either.
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
My occupation as many others have too do not allow me to take off even in a level 3.
So if you attempt to go to work and end up getting stranded in one of these massive traffic pile-ups, your employer will hold that against you in a negative way?
Yes!
Unless they send a notice to the TV or radio station giving an official shutdown, you have to come in to work. And unless there is a blinding blizzard or a complete regional shutdown, you had better be there or take a day vacation.
I have worked for three major aerospace firms and this was the policy. Yea, stupid I know.
I wonder if any employees have ever reported employers who do this to the labor board, and if so, what if anything was done about it? Seems to me that forcing employees to risk their lives trying to get to work would be in violation of some labor law. All employers must comply with OSHA safety standards for all of their employees, and yet it's acceptable for employers to force their employees to risk their lives just to get to work? Does anyone else see how asinine this is?
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
My occupation as many others have too do not allow me to take off even in a level 3.
So if you attempt to go to work and end up getting stranded in one of these massive traffic pile-ups, your employer will hold that against you in a negative way?
Yes!
Unless they send a notice to the TV or radio station giving an official shutdown, you have to come in to work. And unless there is a blinding blizzard or a complete regional shutdown, you had better be there or take a day vacation.
I have worked for three major aerospace firms and this was the policy. Yea, stupid I know.
I wonder if any employees have ever reported employers who do this to the labor board, and if so, what if anything was done about it? Seems to me that forcing employees to risk their lives trying to get to work would be in violation of some labor law. All employers must comply with OSHA safety standards for all of their employees, and yet it's acceptable for employers to force their employees to risk their lives just to get to work? Does anyone else see how asinine this is?
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