Who's running High Performance Lubricants (HPL) products in their engine?

[DirectRejection]

HPL is at the top of the food chain terms of potential for extended OCIs.

It is premium in price and quality.

The focus now IMV ought to be how to use this oil properly in vehicles where motorists might be inclined to do short OCIs.

 

[Sam_Julier]

Yes, but why the no-VII vs. the regular HPL stuff? Are you having shearing issues?

I would not know if there were shearing issues. I don't use UOA on a regular basis.

It’s less expensive to change the oil and return to FCP for credit. Or buy oil on clearance.

I have a bias towards low VII oils.

 

[TiGeo]

Better HTFS viscosity ... no VIIs to make the temporary full shearing viscosity drop as far. Of course, may not need that unless you're really beating the engine with high RPM ... but call it "headroom".

Interesting. People here love headroom haha

 

[wpod]

2021 Chevy Duramax 3500 DRW
HPL 5w-40 CK-4
20,000 miles (per UOA)

2014 Dodge Durango 3.6L
HPL 5w-20 CK-4
20,000 miles (per UOA)

2016 Dodge Charger 3.6L
HPL 5w-30 CJ-4
20,000 miles (per UOA)

John Deere 7830 6.8L
HPL 15w-40 CK-4 cold climate
~500 hours (per UOA)

John Deere 9670 STS 9L
HPL 15w-40 CK-4 cold climate
~500 hours (per UOA)

John Deere 8760 10.1L
HPL 15w-40 CK-4 cold climate
~500 hours (per UOA)

Those are BAT = big @#$ tractors / combine.

 

[TiGeo]

Will be taking my wagon to the track at VIRginia International Raceway this weekend for an HPDE and finally get to run HPL Euro 5W40 for this event. Did 2 weekends last year and both times had mechanical issues prior that forced the shop to change the oil I had in (HPL both times!) out so just ran the Liquimoly oil they like to use. This oil already has a few K on it and I'll run it to ~6K I think this go with possible a few more track days on it this spring. I'm not expecting to notice anything but just a "feel good" knowing I have v. high quality oil in there from a company that supports race cars.

 

[Wheel366]

Will be taking my wagon to the track at VIRginia International Raceway this weekend for an HPDE and finally get to run HPL Euro 5W40 for this event. Did 2 weekends last year and both times had mechanical issues prior that forced the shop to change the oil I had in (HPL both times!) out so just ran the Liquimoly oil they like to use. This oil already has a few K on it and I'll run it to ~6K I think this go with possible a few more track days on it this spring. I'm not expecting to notice anything but just a "feel good" knowing I have v. high quality oil in there from a company that supports race cars.

Pray for no more mechanical issues!

 

[TiGeo]

Pray for no more mechanical issues!

Ha! Of course. I've only had the one issue and that was somewhat a freak thing and had nothing to do with power/use...the only time the timing chain tension should be seeing stress is when you start it up. This car has been very reliable and solid considering I'm at 4 years/90K at >2x stock power level.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Ha! Of course. I've only had the one issue and that was somewhat a freak thing and had nothing to do with power/use...the only time the timing chain tension should be seeing stress is when you start it up.

Lots of stress on the timing chain and tensioners when the engine is being revved up and down all the time. If you were just cruising down the highway at a constant RPM, then not as much stress on that system.

 

[TiGeo]

Lots of stress on the timing chain and tensioners when the engine is being revved up and down all the time. If you were just cruising down the highway at a constant RPM, then not as much stress on that system.

This is the only MK7 EA888 gen3 I've ever read about that this happened to - it's an oddball outlier. Shop's comment was that the stress is on start up and that's when I heard it break.

 

[ZeeOSix]

This is the only MK7 EA888 gen3 I've ever read about that this happened to - it's an oddball outlier. Shop's comment was that the stress is on start up and that's when I heard it break.

It might have failed at start-up, but that system gets stresses also put on it under the conditions I described above.

 

[bbhero]

True indeed Zee ^^^^^^^^^

NASCAR cars could tear up a motor at Martinsville because of the exact phenomenon you are talking about.

Zinging a motor from 3,500 rpm to 8,500 or 9,500 rpm was HARD on those motors on the 1990s and early 2000s especially.

 

[kc135rfox]

2022 Subaru Outback XT
HPL PCMO 5W30
N3R-1-14-302 filter
15K service. Will run 5K OCI.

 

[TiGeo]

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2022 Subaru Outback XT
HPL PCMO 5W30
N3R-1-14-302 filter
15K service. Will run 5K OCI.

Will you be running longer OCIs after this?

 

[TiGeo]

Day 1 was a lot of fun. Had a bit of a "code brown" moment on the first lap of the first session with cold tires and went off....other that that, rest of day was great. Oil temps stayed in the mid-40s to which the HPL says...."hold my beer'....ambient in the low 60s. I check my oil after every session and no consumption...same as previous. No oil smoke from the upgraded OE Audi PCV. I'll post some links to a few things when I get home.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Oil temps stayed in the mid-40s

Is that the mid 240s F?

 

[Titan]

Changed only the filter (and topped off the sump) on 2014 Accord with 114,000 miles after 2000 miles with HPL PCMO Ow20. Oil life estimator indicates 80% life. So, I plan to run it down to about 10%...which will be another 7-8000 miles I'd guess. Hoping this oil will clean the rings a bit and stop/slow the oil consumption...which isn't bad...maybe about a quart per 5000 miles. Interesting to smell the "sweetness" of the esters in this oil...at least, that's what I think I'm smelling!

 

[TiGeo]

Is that the mid 240s F?

ha yes, BITOG with the no edit thing really isn't ideal sometimes. 242 was about as high as I saw.

 

[TiGeo]

Here's some good footage of a session. Day 2 was in the rain with standing water...not great but I did one session just to say I did it. I had a few offs....it happens...HIGH SPEED GROCERY GETTING POWERED BY HPL!

 

[TiGeo]

And the fails...not HPL's fault...

 

[PoorMans180SX]

Changed the oil in both my Infinity G35s. 06 G35x and 03 G35. RWD car can fit a much larger oil filter so of course I obliged. Both cars filled with HPL Supercar 0w40 for the winter. Well the G35 actually got a half quart of Supercar 5w40 out of the bucket I bought since it's larger oil filter necessitated it.
This is my first full oil change with HPL products since I had my RB25 swapped 240sx. The rear wheel drive G35 had a quart of engine cleaner in the previous change, but the engine in the X looks quite clean so I didn't feel it was necessary. The G35 has a couple hundred miles on it so far, and it seems to be happy as a clam, noticeably less noisy than the 8000 mile Mobil one 5w40 that was in it prior to change, which only makes sense. I went a little over my OCI as I was planning on putting this car up and driving the X, but the X needed a lot of repairs that I'm still working on. Now that they both run I figured I'd change them at the same time.

180k+ miles on the G35 (speedo/odo don't work right)
147k miles on the G35x