Who says run 3k -5k on dino?

[Ray H]

At 2K miles, the oil you dump hasn't even begun getting its second wind. If you were to have an analysis performed on what you dump, you'd most assuredly find it's sheared, not thickened. But, even though Brent Crude closed at $70.59 Friday, it's still your money and you're free to spend it however you please...

 

[Auto-Union]

Pick up a bottle of Mobil's new dino oil, Clean 5000. Guess why they call it that?

 

[MarkC]

Where are you finding this dino oil that thickens instead of shears? The Havoline I use in my Cherokee certainly doesn't get thicker, and I run it 3-4K.

 

[adam123]

Its your money and its your vehicles if you think that is sufficient for protection then do it. Im Changing Mobil 1 at 2500 Miles this time because my engine is still breaking in after it breaks in tho Im going with the "Normal Service" of 6,000 Miles.

 

[simple_gifts]

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002940#000000

12K on Havoline dino, Blackstone results, not "butt dyno" observations.

 

[Gary Allan]

Oh ...I might as well add to the dump here

Your using 1965 oil change intervals there techie. We're used to 3k/3m types ...hundreds of them on the board ..but you can surely assume that you hold the daily driver distinction of being the most frequent flyer to the Wally World oil isle.

Give your drain oil to a deserving poor person.


No ..in all seriousness, you don't know if it's thickening or just really thinning out due to fuel dilution or whatever. For all you know it's a low 20 weight in 2k and you may very well have mechanical issues that you're ignorant of.

 

[John_E]

Once again, let's not forget the HUGE impact of driving style on ideal OCI. In terms of engine wear, one mile of short-trip stop-and-go city driving probably equals at least two miles of highway driving.

 

[sprintman]

Minimum OCI here on dino for any vehicle is 10,000 kms (6200+ miles). Most OCI's are 12,500km or 15,000kms with some now 20,000kms. Never heard anything so stupid as changing your oil every 2,000 miles. Send your used oil to me please and I'll run it another 6,000 miles.

 

[techie]

Either way, I did mention that I use synthetics now and change them every 6 months no matter how many miles. Being in ND I switch between 5W-30 and 10W-30 in the fall and spring.

 

[Coral]

Depending on outside influences ( driving style,engine tune/environment (fuel leak/bad seals/gaskets etc.) You can wear out any oil sooner than later. I can run 0 weight and get seat of the pants and real world performance instantly. However my wear is going to go through the roof. In other words, an engine seeming to respond from a performance percpective doesnt mean it is being protected in the long run by a differnet oil type.
If you like doing what your doing then keep on doing it. You aint gonna hurt your motor with a good synthetic and 5K OCI's. I would however get a UOA to see what is going on in there. Any good dino should last you at least 3K with "normal" driving. If something is going on so bad you can feel it and your engine is not responding properly, I would be concerned about more than the oil for sure.

 

[edwardh1]

Toyota says change every 6 months or 5000 miles

 

[vad]

Toyota is still recovering from the fallout of the sludge monster fiasco.
That's why it's being overly cautious by recommending the 5K/6 mo intervals.

[ May 28, 2006, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: vad ]

 

[Lazy JW]

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Originally posted by sprintman:
Minimum OCI here on dino for any vehicle is 10,000 kms (6200+ miles). Most OCI's are 12,500km or 15,000kms with some now 20,000kms. Never heard anything so stupid as changing your oil every 2,000 miles. Send your used oil to me please and I'll run it another 6,000 miles.

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I change the oil in my 1969 air-cooled VW Bug at 2000 miles. No filter. Still want my used oil? These engines typically run over 150,000 miles using NO OIL FILTER. Modern vehicles certainly do not need 2K OCI's though unless driven brutally.
Joe

 

[sprintman]

Sure do the more the better. For new vehicles here some have 20,000k OCI's. Not sure I'd run that long but most use the stealership for service. Thats dino too. Syn optional sometimes.

 

[SSDude]

There is nothing like emperical evidence. Please check out the UOA section:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=3


The search button is a wonderful thing. One member with 10,000 miles on Havoline with Lube Control.

 

[bighead]

quote:

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Originally posted by sprintman:
Minimum OCI here on dino for any vehicle is 10,000 kms (6200+ miles). Most OCI's are 12,500km or 15,000kms with some now 20,000kms. Never heard anything so stupid as changing your oil every 2,000 miles. Send your used oil to me please and I'll run it another 6,000 miles.

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Ok, I'm confused. You are saying that typically dino's are run for 6K+ miles, yet in another thread I read earlier today you said Castrol pulled it's GC oils out of your area because it was an unreliable oil and would break down too easy in hot running vehicles (or something to that extent). So, GC = bad, dino = good for 6K+ miles...

 

[techie]

I've been reading on this site for some time now and notice a lot of people are saying you can run up to 5000 miles on dino such as Havoline. I used to use Havoline. It is a great oil, but I would never go over 2000 miles with it. I have used it in every vehicle I've ever owned and changed it at about the 2k mark. When it got up to about 2k, I would notice that the engine isn't as smooth as it should be and doesn't rev as quickly. Just like the oil has thickened up. After changing I have always noticed a difference in the way the engine runs. It runs much smoother, reacts quicker when I hit the gas, and just performs better. I now use M1 or M1-EP in my Monte Carlo with a 3800. Since I started using M1, I can go over 5k miles and it performs just as good as when I first put it in. I also have a Grand Cherokee with 4.0 and switched from dino to a good synthetic blend. Both my vehicles decreased in performs when I reached the 2k mark when using dino. I'm sure the oil can go beyond that as far as protection, but it just thickens up too much.

 

[csandste]

I can't imagine dumping good dino at 2K, especially with a workhorse engine such as a GM 3.8. I have a 3.5 in my Malibu Maxx and I (mostly) trust my oil life indicator. I usually change at about 7000 miles before changing at about 20% remaining.

Seat of the pants feelings about cars running better after an oil change are usually mind over matter IMHO. If you can provide me with dynomometer readings showing a noticable horsepower and torque boost after an oil change I might be convinced.

 

[AstroVic]

Get your flame suit on!

I agree with csandste on this one. Clean cars (and cars with recent oil changes) always *feel* faster and smoother.

I guess I'll blow your mind when I push dino to 10,000 miles on my next oil change.

But, hey, whatever works for you...

 

[sjlee]

I plan on running nothing but dino oil and following the "normal" maintenance schedule on our Honda Pilot... that means 7500 OCIs.

On my Acura Integra, I've gone with 3750 OCIs with nothing but dino oil... it has 154k and is still running strong with no oil consumption/leaks.

2k OCIs is unnecessary and a waste of money. Heh, and people wonder why the price of oil is so high...