Does anyone have any info on KIA oil filters? The only thing i know they are made in KOREA.
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Word on the Z forums is Wix makes the current Nissan OEM filters.
Originally Posted By: CCX
So Denso makes the oem Nissan filters? Just wondering whether to stick with it or not, very small filter for the '07 altima.
I'm sticking with it for my '06 Frontier with the VQ40. It seems to be a well made filter and when I buy a 10-pack from Courtesy Parts it's not really that expensive.
So Denso makes the oem Nissan filters? Just wondering whether to stick with it or not, very small filter for the '07 altima.
I'm sticking with it for my '06 Frontier with the VQ40. It seems to be a well made filter and when I buy a 10-pack from Courtesy Parts it's not really that expensive.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Word on the Z forums is Wix makes the current Nissan OEM filters.
I don't think Wix is making the Nissan filters unless they've changed since about two months ago; I'm pretty sure Denso makes them. See this link where they've been cut open:
http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id10.html
Word on the Z forums is Wix makes the current Nissan OEM filters.
I don't think Wix is making the Nissan filters unless they've changed since about two months ago; I'm pretty sure Denso makes them. See this link where they've been cut open:
http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id10.html
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Originally Posted By: badbrad358
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Word on the Z forums is Wix makes the current Nissan OEM filters.
I don't think Wix is making the Nissan filters unless they've changed since about two months ago; I'm pretty sure Denso makes them. See this link where they've been cut open:
http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id10.html
How would you compare the Nissan OEM filters to the Mobil 1 filters? Either one better than the other?
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Word on the Z forums is Wix makes the current Nissan OEM filters.
I don't think Wix is making the Nissan filters unless they've changed since about two months ago; I'm pretty sure Denso makes them. See this link where they've been cut open:
http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id10.html
How would you compare the Nissan OEM filters to the Mobil 1 filters? Either one better than the other?
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: badbrad358
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Word on the Z forums is Wix makes the current Nissan OEM filters.
I don't think Wix is making the Nissan filters unless they've changed since about two months ago; I'm pretty sure Denso makes them. See this link where they've been cut open:
http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id10.html
It's a hard comparison since I haven't analyzed each media but I would guess the M1 filter media is slightly better than the OEM Nissan. However, I really like the guts of the OEM Nissan with the bypass valve and other robust designed components. For about $5 each I'll stick with them.
How would you compare the Nissan OEM filters to the Mobil 1 filters? Either one better than the other?
Originally Posted By: badbrad358
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Word on the Z forums is Wix makes the current Nissan OEM filters.
I don't think Wix is making the Nissan filters unless they've changed since about two months ago; I'm pretty sure Denso makes them. See this link where they've been cut open:
http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id10.html
It's a hard comparison since I haven't analyzed each media but I would guess the M1 filter media is slightly better than the OEM Nissan. However, I really like the guts of the OEM Nissan with the bypass valve and other robust designed components. For about $5 each I'll stick with them.
How would you compare the Nissan OEM filters to the Mobil 1 filters? Either one better than the other?
Those are the old Japan made Nisson OEM filters. The new ones are made in China.
Also, Nissan oil filters are made by Nippon, and they are made in China now. They used to be made in Japan.
Originally Posted By: john stasa
Does anyone have any info on KIA oil filters? The only thing i know they are made in KOREA.
They are made in Korea, they appear to be made using Mann designs, and I have disassembled the Hyundai/Kia filters and found them to be of excellent construction.
Does anyone have any info on KIA oil filters? The only thing i know they are made in KOREA.
They are made in Korea, they appear to be made using Mann designs, and I have disassembled the Hyundai/Kia filters and found them to be of excellent construction.
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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there has been absolutely no proof of the card board end caps coming apart either in a fram or a denso (aside from some vague pictures of a jet black Fram filter with a curved filter element/end cap).
Absolutely true ....and when other filter manufacturers adopt the practice, we'll all understand the unique value to this manufacturing technique. We'll no longer wonder why WIX, Purolator, Champion, Baldwin-Hastings, Donalson , etc. have gone to the senseless expense of hard parts in the form of steel or composites..when the obvious superior properties of the cardboard end cap was before their eyes all along. Why did they waste billions over many decades while Fram had this niche wonder exclusively to themselves?
Their bean counters and engineers should be shot for incompetence and gross negligence.
Absolute GOLD sir
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there has been absolutely no proof of the card board end caps coming apart either in a fram or a denso (aside from some vague pictures of a jet black Fram filter with a curved filter element/end cap).
Absolutely true ....and when other filter manufacturers adopt the practice, we'll all understand the unique value to this manufacturing technique. We'll no longer wonder why WIX, Purolator, Champion, Baldwin-Hastings, Donalson , etc. have gone to the senseless expense of hard parts in the form of steel or composites..when the obvious superior properties of the cardboard end cap was before their eyes all along. Why did they waste billions over many decades while Fram had this niche wonder exclusively to themselves?
Absolute GOLD sir
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
NAPA brand filters, AFAIK, are all produced by WIX. The only WIX spec'd filter is the NAPA Gold. All others produced by Wix FOR NAPA are NAPA spec filters and not spec'd by WIX. WIX only offers ONE level of quality for every automotive part number (there are some XD/HD alternatives for some heavy equipment numbers).
So, in the sense of a square is a rectangle ..but a rectangle isn't a square type thing, Even though WIX may make all the NAPA labeled filters, only the NAPA Gold is a WIX.
Very true. I once bought a NAPA filter (not a gold) and was told by the parts guy it was made by WIX and was the same as a WIX which is what I normally use. I was only buying it because I didn't realize I was out of filters and the auto store that carries WIX was closed. When I compared it to the WIX I took off my car it was not at all the same. It said WIX on the side of the filter but had a different WIX number and was much more cheaply built.
NAPA brand filters, AFAIK, are all produced by WIX. The only WIX spec'd filter is the NAPA Gold. All others produced by Wix FOR NAPA are NAPA spec filters and not spec'd by WIX. WIX only offers ONE level of quality for every automotive part number (there are some XD/HD alternatives for some heavy equipment numbers).
So, in the sense of a square is a rectangle ..but a rectangle isn't a square type thing, Even though WIX may make all the NAPA labeled filters, only the NAPA Gold is a WIX.
Very true. I once bought a NAPA filter (not a gold) and was told by the parts guy it was made by WIX and was the same as a WIX which is what I normally use. I was only buying it because I didn't realize I was out of filters and the auto store that carries WIX was closed. When I compared it to the WIX I took off my car it was not at all the same. It said WIX on the side of the filter but had a different WIX number and was much more cheaply built.
I've recently cross-referenced two Quaker State filters and their part numbers were identical to the Fram with the exception of the prefix. Currently they are noted to be Purolators in the original post?? Any thoughts?
QS4967 & PH4967 was one set of comparisons.
QS4967 & PH4967 was one set of comparisons.
Originally Posted By: Cory
I've recently cross-referenced two Quaker State filters and their part numbers were identical to the Fram with the exception of the prefix. Currently they are noted to be Purolators in the original post?? Any thoughts?
Sure.
Quaker State adopted a variation of the Fram numbering system. They used the same system when their filters were made by Champion.
I've recently cross-referenced two Quaker State filters and their part numbers were identical to the Fram with the exception of the prefix. Currently they are noted to be Purolators in the original post?? Any thoughts?
Sure.
Quaker State adopted a variation of the Fram numbering system. They used the same system when their filters were made by Champion.
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Ok guys, I'm a newbie to this forum, but after reading 20 pages on this topic, I thought I'd throw in my two cents.
I worked for Baldwin Filters in Kearney, NE last summer as an intern. I'll share what I saw.
We made filters for quite a few of the manufacturers listed at the beginning of this thread. While sometimes it may only be one part number, maybe a few more, but that being said it is true.
And its not just oil filters for that matter either. They make filters for about anything automotive... air, oil, fuel, hydraulic, water seperators, coolant conditioners, and so on.
Baldwin makes all the materials for their filters, and other brands' filters they make IN HOUSE. They have HUGE presses, robotic welders, servo controlled pleaters, hot melts, huge ovens, thousands of rolls of filter materials, miles of rolls of steel sheet metal and so on so on. At any one time there are enough already made materials stored in house to produce one million filters, yes ONE MILLION filters without running anything but assembly machines. Thats a BIG inventory!! Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of finished parts they store too. And thats JUST the Kearney facility. They also have two other North Am. facilitys like "Nebraskan" said about 10 pages ago, Yankton SD, and Gothenberg NE. Every baldwin filter that is sold in North America is shipped out of the Kearney facility, so you can imagine the size of the place!!!
And when I left in Aug. to go back to school :-( They had just got corporate approval for a 360,000 sq ft. Distribution center expansion!!!
And yeah, they're owned by Clarcor, but it has little more significance than a title, and cut in pay and benefits for everyone who was there for the takeover.
On to filters... lol. I'm trying to bring back all those brain cells I killed and remember who all we made filters for. Here goes... AcDelco, CAT, Purolator, WIX, Fram, Napa, Motorcraft, John Deere, Donaldson, Hastings (since they own Hastings). And those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. And from seeing the PO's in the database.
Now I'm DEFINENTLY NOT saying that ALL of those brands of filters are ALL made by Baldwin, cuz that'd be dumb. But they do make some filters for quite a few other mfr's. I think a lot of people underestimate the sheer amount of filters that Baldwin actually makes!
They also do in house testing for all of their filters. I got to watch and help do some analysis in that area. They burst and cycle test their filters, along with testing flow rates, and holding capacity of the filter media. A typical filter will last for around a million cycles of 0 to whatever psi, and back to zero. Performed at 1 cycle per second. You can actually watch the filter pulsate, kind of like a heart beating.
It's been interesting to read and see who knows what, and who's blowin smoke. I can already tell there's a lot of smart guys here!! I'm not going to say I know everything, or even that I know very much. Cuz I don't know a lot about filters, and even less about oil!! But now you guys know what I know... thanks, and look forward to learnin more!!
I worked for Baldwin Filters in Kearney, NE last summer as an intern. I'll share what I saw.
We made filters for quite a few of the manufacturers listed at the beginning of this thread. While sometimes it may only be one part number, maybe a few more, but that being said it is true.
And its not just oil filters for that matter either. They make filters for about anything automotive... air, oil, fuel, hydraulic, water seperators, coolant conditioners, and so on.
Baldwin makes all the materials for their filters, and other brands' filters they make IN HOUSE. They have HUGE presses, robotic welders, servo controlled pleaters, hot melts, huge ovens, thousands of rolls of filter materials, miles of rolls of steel sheet metal and so on so on. At any one time there are enough already made materials stored in house to produce one million filters, yes ONE MILLION filters without running anything but assembly machines. Thats a BIG inventory!! Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of finished parts they store too. And thats JUST the Kearney facility. They also have two other North Am. facilitys like "Nebraskan" said about 10 pages ago, Yankton SD, and Gothenberg NE. Every baldwin filter that is sold in North America is shipped out of the Kearney facility, so you can imagine the size of the place!!!
And when I left in Aug. to go back to school :-( They had just got corporate approval for a 360,000 sq ft. Distribution center expansion!!!
And yeah, they're owned by Clarcor, but it has little more significance than a title, and cut in pay and benefits for everyone who was there for the takeover.
On to filters... lol. I'm trying to bring back all those brain cells I killed and remember who all we made filters for. Here goes... AcDelco, CAT, Purolator, WIX, Fram, Napa, Motorcraft, John Deere, Donaldson, Hastings (since they own Hastings). And those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. And from seeing the PO's in the database.
Now I'm DEFINENTLY NOT saying that ALL of those brands of filters are ALL made by Baldwin, cuz that'd be dumb. But they do make some filters for quite a few other mfr's. I think a lot of people underestimate the sheer amount of filters that Baldwin actually makes!
They also do in house testing for all of their filters. I got to watch and help do some analysis in that area. They burst and cycle test their filters, along with testing flow rates, and holding capacity of the filter media. A typical filter will last for around a million cycles of 0 to whatever psi, and back to zero. Performed at 1 cycle per second. You can actually watch the filter pulsate, kind of like a heart beating.
It's been interesting to read and see who knows what, and who's blowin smoke. I can already tell there's a lot of smart guys here!! I'm not going to say I know everything, or even that I know very much. Cuz I don't know a lot about filters, and even less about oil!! But now you guys know what I know... thanks, and look forward to learnin more!!
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