Who actually still uses a synthetic blend?

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Dexos1 Pennzoil blend is available in only 1 grade 5w-30, so I picked up a jug of Castrol gtx synblend 5w-20. Will run it next spring and summer.
 
Originally Posted By: blackman777
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
supposedly just about every SN "dino" has at least some group III content as well.

Group III is not synthetic. Group III is still a "dino" oil. Synthetics do not begin until groups IV and V.


And group IV is made from ethylene gas extracted from natural gas, another carbon based source. Who cares whether Group III is a true synthetic or not. Heck, technically, lubes made from whale oil in the early 1800's still fit the TRUE classification of being "synthetics", but I sure wouldn't use them in my equipment.

And Group V is just a classification that includes everything that doesn't fit neatly into Groups I - IV. Man that is broad idea there.

I still us a good blend in my diesels... Schaeffer 700 15w40. A PAO Group IV and Group II+ blend. Does a great job at a good value on the wallet. My 2013 Silverado gets the Schaeffer 9003D 5w30 full synthetic... a PAO Group IV and Group III blend.
 
Been using Maxlife off and on in the Acura in my sig. Planning to go back to it after my current stash of full syn bought on sale is used up. And since I can get it in 0w20 weight via work as well, once my last 5qt jug of QSUD is used up, the Mazda will be going on a diet of Maxlife as well.
 
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Well, not me anyways. Tried that route, and no sir, I did not like it. It's either dino and full syn anyways, as I can't see a blend doing any better than plain ol' dino anyways, unless most of the bottle is a syn anyways....

So, short of those who go to fiestone (kendall) or the local dealership (motorcraft, Delco Dexos), does anyone still use it in an oil change? Judging by reading the latest poll, I'm thinking not, but still curious anyways...


Which syn blend did you use and what didn't you like about it?
 
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Originally Posted By: blackman777
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
supposedly just about every SN "dino" has at least some group III content as well.

Group III is not synthetic. Group III is still a "dino" oil. Synthetics do not begin until groups IV and V.


And group IV is made from ethylene gas extracted from natural gas, another carbon based source. Who cares whether Group III is a true synthetic or not. Heck, technically, lubes made from whale oil in the early 1800's still fit the TRUE classification of being "synthetics", but I sure wouldn't use them in my equipment.

And Group V is just a classification that includes everything that doesn't fit neatly into Groups I - IV. Man that is broad idea there.

I still us a good blend in my diesels... Schaeffer 700 15w40. A PAO Group IV and Group II+ blend. Does a great job at a good value on the wallet. My 2013 Silverado gets the Schaeffer 9003D 5w30 full synthetic... a PAO Group IV and Group III blend.


Cam you tell a fellow close bitog'r where you get your schaeffer's at?
 
I'm going the other way, and am switching TO synthetic blend FROM full synthetic.

With the dexos spec, the synthetic blends are all that my vehicles need.

The GM trucks and the T&C are using the dexos approved Pennzoil Synthetic blend 5w-30. All of the OPE is using Rotella T5 10w-30 Synthetic blend.

When the Ford V-10 powered motorhome comes out of storage next spring, it will be getting the 5w-30 Pennzoil Synthetic Blend as well.

Two oils for everything. That's just about as simple as I can make it. The days of buying 4-5 different oils are over.
 
Originally Posted By: wymi516
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Well, not me anyways. Tried that route, and no sir, I did not like it. It's either dino and full syn anyways, as I can't see a blend doing any better than plain ol' dino anyways, unless most of the bottle is a syn anyways....

So, short of those who go to fiestone (kendall) or the local dealership (motorcraft, Delco Dexos), does anyone still use it in an oil change? Judging by reading the latest poll, I'm thinking not, but still curious anyways...


Which syn blend did you use and what didn't you like about it?


I used Service Pro's 5w30 blend, and my engine just didn't like it. It could have been anything (maybe even something could have gone into the oil too...you never know) Lots of possible reasons, but I'm not going to blame SP themselves...My brother still uses it with no issues at all. Just may wait to use it again...though if my local hardware store puts the dexos syn on sale, I'll try that...
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But after that, i really don't see the point of them...
 
Originally Posted By: KB2008X
Check my sig for weights, but 3 of 4 engines are on TropArtic Synthetic Blend. $1.79 to $1.99 per quart from Orscheln's and they run just fine with clean old oil drains and old filters every 5,000 to 6,000 miles, with the occasional 7,000 mile change. I'm not running the Blend because of the small amount of synthetic, but rather it's just the best oil for the money.

Great oil, great price and sleeping great at night.



Exactly why most would buy it...it needs to be a great deal....
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
Because of the demands of the SN rating,most oils had to go semi synthetic.You would be surprised how many people read that label and shy away,looking for the old oil (non synthetic)...because they think the semi stuff will damage their engine.
Wait until those uninformed buy a 2011-up GM,Subaru,Toyota.....wont they be shocked...


I know a few people like that. "My brand new Honda doesn't need synthetic". And, that's true, but the warranty won't be happy.


You know that is inaccurate.
 
Originally Posted By: blackman777
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
supposedly just about every SN "dino" has at least some group III content as well.

Group III is not synthetic. Group III is still a "dino" oil. Synthetics do not begin until groups IV and V.


Another inaccurate statement.
 
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: blackman777
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
supposedly just about every SN "dino" has at least some group III content as well.

Group III is not synthetic. Group III is still a "dino" oil. Synthetics do not begin until groups IV and V.

Another inaccurate statement.

Well...at least do not tell Castrol and the DoJ
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(SHRUG) The oil groups I to III have always been treated as conventional oils for over a centure, and IV was the synthetic group. Just because some lawyer behind a bench decided to declare III is synthetic does not change the laws of physics. Reminds me of a story:

A bunch of lawyers decided the value of pi shall be 3, and they passed a law through the State Legislature to declare it so. Nevertheless the value of pi (circumference divided by diameter of a circle) still remained 3.1415... et cetera. Lawyers cannot change basic physical facts with mere laws.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
I'm going the other way, and am switching TO synthetic blend FROM full synthetic.

With the dexos spec, the synthetic blends are all that my vehicles need.

The GM trucks and the T&C are using the dexos approved Pennzoil Synthetic blend 5w-30. All of the OPE is using Rotella T5 10w-30 Synthetic blend.

When the Ford V-10 powered motorhome comes out of storage next spring, it will be getting the 5w-30 Pennzoil Synthetic Blend as well.

Two oils for everything. That's just about as simple as I can make it. The days of buying 4-5 different oils are over.




If you don't mind me asking for the cars that it is going in...is it regular service or severe?
 
Originally Posted By: daves87rs

If you don't mind me asking for the cars that it is going in...is it regular service or severe?


I sent you a PM, Dave.
 
Originally Posted By: blackman777
(SHRUG) The oil groups I to III have always been treated as conventional oils for over a centure, and IV was the synthetic group. Just because some lawyer behind a bench decided to declare III is synthetic does not change the laws of physics.



Another inaccurate post. From someone who does not understand that performance is key not a classification. But showing then explaining the difference would be a waste of time.
 
I don't understand why people here seem to dislike the blends so much. I was actually somewhat annoyed when I found that a local Walmart carries Pennzoil SynBlend because I had just changed my oil a week before that using PYB from a different Walmart that doesn't carry SynBlend. But I would have used the blend over PYB for less than two dollars more and potentially safer cold starts.

It's not that I don't have confidence in PYB, but for an extra dollar and change you have an oil that should offer better extreme temperature performance. I don't want to jump to a PP/PU or Edge type of product because I run my truck in a low mileage/frequent short trips severe driving style and I'd change the oil based on time way before I could ever hit 7,500 miles on PP anyway. Also I'd rather not go full-syn with my 21 year old truck and risk leaks.

I have no used a blends yet but they seem like a great bang for your buck product that's good for shorter OCIs such as my application.
 
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Originally Posted By: blackman777
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
supposedly just about every SN "dino" has at least some group III content as well.

Group III is not synthetic. Group III is still a "dino" oil. Synthetics do not begin until groups IV and V.


And group IV is made from ethylene gas extracted from natural gas, another carbon based source. Who cares whether Group III is a true synthetic or not. Heck, technically, lubes made from whale oil in the early 1800's still fit the TRUE classification of being "synthetics", but I sure wouldn't use them in my equipment.

And Group V is just a classification that includes everything that doesn't fit neatly into Groups I - IV. Man that is broad idea there.

I still us a good blend in my diesels... Schaeffer 700 15w40. A PAO Group IV and Group II+ blend. Does a great job at a good value on the wallet. My 2013 Silverado gets the Schaeffer 9003D 5w30 full synthetic... a PAO Group IV and Group III blend.


Cam you tell a fellow close bitog'r where you get your schaeffer's at?


A rep that lives about 15 miles from me in Central Iowa, Dan Dykema. He is out of Sully. His phone is 641-417-8146. This is his home page... http://www.schaefferoilreps.com/dandykema/
 
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