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Which vehicle year is safe from EMP attacks?
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I like the boat idea except for pirates. Nowhere to hide really, paint it blue and sail at night.
In any survival scenario there will be thugs with guns who want your stuff. A well stocked hidey hole will be your friend. Even the sewers and subway tunnels will be thoroughly searched by hungry gangs. Lay low while they murder each other.
In any survival scenario there will be thugs with guns who want your stuff. A well stocked hidey hole will be your friend. Even the sewers and subway tunnels will be thoroughly searched by hungry gangs. Lay low while they murder each other.
Perception of risk is so funny. I think the chance of getting killed in a car crash on the way to buy your emp-resistant vehicle is higher than the chance you will actually need it.
Lorenzo's got it right. You can just about guarantee that whatever disaster you prepare for won't be the right one. Better to live life today than prepare for what bad thing might happen tomorrow.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
This thread makes me happy for some reason
. What ever you do don't get a vehicle with Onstar, or at least disable it. They don't even need EMP to shut you down
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If you do not have on-star, they can use an EMP gun. If you have a pace maker, you will shut down along with your car:
http://slashdot.org/story/10/01/22/2339204/Electromagnetic-Pulse-Gun-To-Help-In-Police-Chases
This thread makes me happy for some reason
If you do not have on-star, they can use an EMP gun. If you have a pace maker, you will shut down along with your car:
http://slashdot.org/story/10/01/22/2339204/Electromagnetic-Pulse-Gun-To-Help-In-Police-Chases
That is true. I was buying a couple lengths of pipe at the hardware store last week. I said I hoped what I was working on was a stupid project that I would never need. The pipe is for a natural gas line to feed my generator. The most likely time I would ever need that was if the power was off when we were snowed in. If spending $250 plus a day or 2's time getting ready for that means it will never ever happen, it will be money well spent.
About 5 years ago, we had a freezing rain that wiped out the electrical distribution system. Some people right in town were without power for 2 weeks. Luckily, it stayed above 40. Often following a storm, the temperature drops. No power, no furnace, and the pipes could freeze.
About 5 years ago, we had a freezing rain that wiped out the electrical distribution system. Some people right in town were without power for 2 weeks. Luckily, it stayed above 40. Often following a storm, the temperature drops. No power, no furnace, and the pipes could freeze.
Originally Posted By: labman
That is true. I was buying a couple lengths of pipe at the hardware store last week. I said I hoped what I was working on was a stupid project that I would never need. The pipe is for a natural gas line to feed my generator. The most likely time I would ever need that was if the power was off when we were snowed in. If spending $250 plus a day or 2's time getting ready for that means it will never ever happen, it will be money well spent.
About 5 years ago, we had a freezing rain that wiped out the electrical distribution system. Some people right in town were without power for 2 weeks. Luckily, it stayed above 40. Often following a storm, the temperature drops. No power,
no furnace, and the pipes could freeze.
Were they still pumping natural gas without power? Maybe its possible to have propane hookup as well and a big tank?
To the OP, if you really consider an EMP attack or any cause of societal breakdown a serious threat, move to the country. Fewer people with far more ability and tools to take care of themselves. There are 10's of 1000's of pounds of meat and tonnes of grain within 10 miles of here and maybe 6000 people...
Far better odds than even a small city let alone a big one...
That is true. I was buying a couple lengths of pipe at the hardware store last week. I said I hoped what I was working on was a stupid project that I would never need. The pipe is for a natural gas line to feed my generator. The most likely time I would ever need that was if the power was off when we were snowed in. If spending $250 plus a day or 2's time getting ready for that means it will never ever happen, it will be money well spent.
About 5 years ago, we had a freezing rain that wiped out the electrical distribution system. Some people right in town were without power for 2 weeks. Luckily, it stayed above 40. Often following a storm, the temperature drops. No power,
no furnace, and the pipes could freeze.
Were they still pumping natural gas without power? Maybe its possible to have propane hookup as well and a big tank?
To the OP, if you really consider an EMP attack or any cause of societal breakdown a serious threat, move to the country. Fewer people with far more ability and tools to take care of themselves. There are 10's of 1000's of pounds of meat and tonnes of grain within 10 miles of here and maybe 6000 people...
Far better odds than even a small city let alone a big one...
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: labman
That is true. I was buying a couple lengths of pipe at the hardware store last week. I said I hoped what I was working on was a stupid project that I would never need. The pipe is for a natural gas line to feed my generator. The most likely time I would ever need that was if the power was off when we were snowed in. If spending $250 plus a day or 2's time getting ready for that means it will never ever happen, it will be money well spent.
About 5 years ago, we had a freezing rain that wiped out the electrical distribution system. Some people right in town were without power for 2 weeks. Luckily, it stayed above 40. Often following a storm, the temperature drops. No power,
no furnace, and the pipes could freeze.
Were they still pumping natural gas without power? Maybe its possible to have propane hookup as well and a big tank?
To the OP, if you really consider an EMP attack or any cause of societal breakdown a serious threat, move to the country. Fewer people with far more ability and tools to take care of themselves. There are 10's of 1000's of pounds of meat and tonnes of grain within 10 miles of here and maybe 6000 people...
Far better odds than even a small city let alone a big one...
It would probably be better to connect a diesel generator to your home heating oil tank. That would allow you to go for at least a month and you do not have to worry about propane gas leaks or sudden supply disruptions.
Originally Posted By: labman
That is true. I was buying a couple lengths of pipe at the hardware store last week. I said I hoped what I was working on was a stupid project that I would never need. The pipe is for a natural gas line to feed my generator. The most likely time I would ever need that was if the power was off when we were snowed in. If spending $250 plus a day or 2's time getting ready for that means it will never ever happen, it will be money well spent.
About 5 years ago, we had a freezing rain that wiped out the electrical distribution system. Some people right in town were without power for 2 weeks. Luckily, it stayed above 40. Often following a storm, the temperature drops. No power,
no furnace, and the pipes could freeze.
Were they still pumping natural gas without power? Maybe its possible to have propane hookup as well and a big tank?
To the OP, if you really consider an EMP attack or any cause of societal breakdown a serious threat, move to the country. Fewer people with far more ability and tools to take care of themselves. There are 10's of 1000's of pounds of meat and tonnes of grain within 10 miles of here and maybe 6000 people...
Far better odds than even a small city let alone a big one...
It would probably be better to connect a diesel generator to your home heating oil tank. That would allow you to go for at least a month and you do not have to worry about propane gas leaks or sudden supply disruptions.
If you have internal combustion running, n'er do-wells will find you. I'd be heating canned food over a tea light candle.
We had an ice storm back in 1998 where people were backing pickup trucks up to running generators (outside, for exhaust reasons), loading them up, and taking off, yanking the cord.
We had an ice storm back in 1998 where people were backing pickup trucks up to running generators (outside, for exhaust reasons), loading them up, and taking off, yanking the cord.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
If you have internal combustion running, n'er do-wells will find you. I'd be heating canned food over a tea light candle.
We had an ice storm back in 1998 where people were backing pickup trucks up to running generators (outside, for exhaust reasons), loading them up, and taking off, yanking the cord.
What happens if the generator is in the backyard behind a fence?
If you have internal combustion running, n'er do-wells will find you. I'd be heating canned food over a tea light candle.
We had an ice storm back in 1998 where people were backing pickup trucks up to running generators (outside, for exhaust reasons), loading them up, and taking off, yanking the cord.
What happens if the generator is in the backyard behind a fence?
Originally Posted By: ShiningArcanine
It would probably be better to connect a diesel generator to your home heating oil tank. That would allow you to go for at least a month and you do not have to worry about propane gas leaks or sudden supply disruptions.
I don't have a diesel generator or or a home heating oil tank.
It would probably be better to connect a diesel generator to your home heating oil tank. That would allow you to go for at least a month and you do not have to worry about propane gas leaks or sudden supply disruptions.
I don't have a diesel generator or or a home heating oil tank.
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Originally Posted By: Steve S
What brings up the subject?
Fear.
What brings up the subject?
Fear.
What brings up a lot of these subjects.
While out driving, I'm always running risk scenarios.
What if this git pulls out in front of me ?
What if that dodgy shifting load in front of me gives ?
Give me time to work out where to be, what speed etc. when/if it occurs.
Nothing wrong in my mind asking questions.
While out driving, I'm always running risk scenarios.
What if this git pulls out in front of me ?
What if that dodgy shifting load in front of me gives ?
Give me time to work out where to be, what speed etc. when/if it occurs.
Nothing wrong in my mind asking questions.
I think the OP has been playing too much Call of Duty Modern Warfare...
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