Just got my SUV back from a $2.5 k FluidFilm/PermaFilm application

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This was done in Germany where I am currently working.

I had picked them, because this was clearly the most serious place doing such applications, as it was the only one who said they needed to keep the car for up to 10 days for drying cycles.
This was not convienient to me as I lived 45 minutes away and so I needed a rental (which are fortunately cheap here).

Steps, that were done ( He sent me pics but it was via text not email and I have yet to move them to my email)

1 ) taking off the plastic and rubber trim pieces under the vehicle for access to metal surfaces they might otherwise cover.
2) cleaning the entire underside, drying. cleaning again
3) Spraying FluidFilm into all nooks and crannies into the cars body to include the hood, door bottoms and rear hatch. Spraying it on seams
4)spraying it into the box frame.
5) Painting the outside of the frame, suspension parts and many metal surfaces ( like the wheel wells under the rubber cladding and the underbody of the car) with Permafilm, a wax based protectant paint. It looks like a mostly transparent paint.
The entire bottom of the car is now covered in this. From laying under the car I cannot see any untreated steel (except brakes, exhaust/engine stuff like that)
6) Reattachment of rubber and plastic trim pieces.
7) drying

Interesting note.
The Gentleman told me he noticed that there was still a lot of consumer grade Fluid Film clinging to many surfaces on the underside, which he had to clean up, to ensure his wax based paint would stick.
This is interesting to me, because, it had been 16 months since that had been applied by me back in the US.

So it looks perhaps, the Consumer grade fluid film clings better than its reputation.
However, there were many places I knew I had sprayed that were completly bereft of my consumer grade FF application from Sep 2023 (when I had bought the vehicle new), so there is that.
Still I thought that tidbit was interesting.

PS: The guy also had a 30+ yr old MB, W124 300E in his shop.
Was told owner gets this done every 5-8 years. Car looks near new despite approx 30 years of age.
 
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Almost anything will work in areas its not getting wet often or blasted by water and grit off the road. So spray cans of whichever rust proof stuff or even chainsaw oil with some tackifiers will last for a couple years at least. The trick is the spots like inside the sub frames that get blasted and wet all the time, and loaded up with salt and grit.
I do like the thoroughness of taking all the trim and shields off and it seems they leave themselves time to do a proper job of it. I hope there's a yearly touch up planned just for the areas blasted by spray directly.
 
Holy crap that's expensive labor. The materials are so cheap in bulk.
I probably could have had it for cheaper in the US, but my vehicle will probably have to get through a couple of salty winters here yet and this way I know it was done right.

I asked him to spend extra attention on the rear subframe assembly since I had seen my R51 Pathfinder get a lot of rust there from 10+ yrs in the rust belt with an inattentive prior owner, ( thought he rest of the frame had been fine) and I did not want a repeat with this near-new Armada.
 
I probably could have had it for cheaper in the US, but my vehicle will probably have to get through a couple of salty winters here yet and this way I know it was done right.

I asked him to spend extra attention on the rear subframe assembly since I had seen my R51 Pathfinder get a lot of rust there from 10+ yrs in the rust belt with an inattentive prior owner, ( thought he rest of the frame had been fine) and I did not want a repeat with this near-new Armada.
Yeah this being out of the US i have no idea what pricing should look like. They may have extra fees for even spraying the stuff with how Europe gets with chemicals. If you're happy with the job then it is what it is.
 
They offer a free check and , as needed, touchup every 2 yrs.
So, this is considered effectively lifetime? Or does it need to be redone at some point?

I ask because on many vehicles the cost/benefit may not work out, depending upon how long the vehicle is likely to live having nothing like this at all.
 
So, this is considered effectively lifetime? Or does it need to be redone at some point?

I ask because on many vehicles the cost/benefit may not work out, depending upon how long the vehicle is likely to live having nothing like this at all.
Lifetime every 2 years reinspection.
If needed extra application at any spot that needed it, such as having been hit by a rock or something.

However I will not remain in this country long enough to take advantage of this more than once.
 
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I ask because on many vehicles the cost/benefit may not work out, depending upon how long the vehicle is likely to live having nothing like this at all.
Well, barring theft or catastrophic accidents, I intend to keep this vehicle until I die.
I will retire in perhaps 3-5 years and then not buy another new vehicle.

Also IMHO this powertrain will last forever, especially with BITOG style maintenance, in 15 or so years, I dont want to be in this situation where the powertrain is great, but the vehicle is too rusted to keep.

Will I make back the money I invested?
Hard to tell, possibly yes, possibly no, but for an excessive car hypochondriac such as myself, the peace of mind in winter driving on salted roads, is priceless.
 
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Well, barring theft or catastrophic accidents, I intend to keep this vehicle until I die.
I will retire in perhaps 3-5 years and then not buy another new vehicle.

Also IMHO this powertrain will last forever, especially with BITOG style maintenance, in 15 or so years, I dont want to be in this situation where the powertrain is great, but the vehicle is too rusted to keep.

Will I make back the money I invested?
Hard to tell, possibly yes, possibly no, but for an excessive car hypochondriac such as myself, the peace of mind in winter driving on salted roads, is priceless.
So this is a one time $2500? The "touch-ups" at the two-year marks are free?

That is the only question I had.
 
So this is a one time $2500? The "touch-ups" at the two-year marks are free?

That is the only question I had.
Yes.

Any touchups are free.
the Waxpaint is pretty solid and should last many years of normal street use but if you drive over a rock or the like, it might need touch up and thats what the inspection is for . :)
 
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That is really cool. I knew about fluid film, but didn't know folks were doing this professionally. I also didn't know there was such a thing as that wax paint. Very cool.
 
That is really cool. I knew about fluid film, but didn't know folks were doing this professionally. I also didn't know there was such a thing as that wax paint. Very cool.
The waxpaint is also made by Fluid film and called Permafilm and is applied via a brush. :)
The sprayable Fluid film they use, is thicker and higher concentrated than the consumer grade we buy elswhere.

Not trying to be fanboy just regurgitating my research.

Human beings have a tendency to justify any large expense they already made, to themsleves and others as great, I try not to fall into that trap.
 
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