Not sure I completely agreed with it, but one video I watched said there was two classes now: working and upper. The doctor making $500k/yr but neck-deep in debt, is that person better off than the person with a modest pension who no longer has to work? The line gets blurred--I still think there's value in lower/middle/upper class, putting people into those buckets so as to examine behaviors: but I thought the video at least had some merit in it on that front. If you haven't made it to financial independence--then it doesn't matter what you make or the size of your portfolio, you're part of the working class. And ought to act like it.
But what is financial independence, and what is “making it”?
A family making $300k/yr is easy to do these days. I mean, the teachers salary chart around here goes over $100k/yr… have two employed spouses, and it’s more than likely to hit that much for gainfully employed but reasonably salaried folks. Assume $40k socked away between retirement and health insurance.
I found a handy calculator, throwing $300k and $40k in, and assuming NJ because that’s what it defaulted to due to my IP address, which means that it’s one of the higher taxed states and therefore a worst case… and:
So after saving somewhat for retirement, the $300k couple brings in $16k per month.
The first million dollar home nearby was actually $1.3M, and assuming the realtor.com calculator is right, it’s an $8600/mo mortgage with current rates and 20% down. A lot of money, but only half of the take home of the above example.
And a remaining $8k/mo is a lot, even with a $1k/mo car lease and whatever else.
So it’s almost hard to believe that the $500k/yr doctor is in debt up to their eyeballs if they’ve paid off med school debt, which should happen pretty quick. Unless they’re on drugs or fueling some other bad habit.
I’d find it hard to believe that someone affording to live in a $1,3M house is in a “working class” akin to the technician or teacher. I also don’t think that the family bringing in $300k/yr and living at this level is at the same status as the $500k dr, or someone making $1M let alone $Millions per year. It sure seems there are some more graduations in there than two. Maybe by simple math is flawed. Maybe I’m forgetting something? I’m sure the rule of thumb isn’t to spend 50% of your take home on a mortgage, but I thought it was 30-38% of gross? It has been so long now and my mortgage is such a tiny fraction, it’s not something I track… but as folks earn more, the cost of stuff, be it even expensive homes and cars and whatnot, is smaller relative to their remaining funds… and thus they are doing better than a working person living paycheck to paycheck. There’s some knee in the curve where the excess taxation that the middle class pays just doesn’t matter as much because there is extra cash flow. That’s not a two class setup…
I DO know kids cost a lot, but plenty of folks raise kids with way less than $8k/mo take home…