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Has the PCV valve ever been replaced? It probably should be if it hasn't been replaced yet.
Has the PCV valve ever been replaced? It probably should be if it hasn't been replaced yet.
which oil to try next in 2011 Sonata?
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Originally Posted By: maximus
My hopes aren't high if I need a warranty claim. Hyundai is notorious for denying them. The 10yr 100k warranty is a marketing gimmick.
This statement is ignorant and 100% false. If anything, Hyundai warranties more than they should have to.
10yr/100k is powertrain only. That means engine, transmission, wheel bearings, drive axles, drive shaft, carrier bearing, power coupler, differential, crank pulley, timing chain, and water pump. Nothing else, because nothing else is part of the powertrain. Sensors are not included because they are not part of the powertrain.
I work in Hyundai service, and I have seen Hyundai warranty an engine that came in with no oil in it, no oil leaks, and an OEM filter that was almost completely rusted. We had done the last service on the car 25k prior. I asked for proof of service. The customer came in with handwritten slips that had consecutive invoice numbers, but were dated 3 months apart. I faxed the obvious forgeries to our Hyundai rep. He instructed us to replace the motor.
Anyways, use any inexpensive API SN/GF-5 or ACEA A5/B5 (preferred) oil.
You're one of them so your perspective is different. The manual says the powertrain warranty only covers internally lubricated parts, which are the parts that are least likely to fail. If an injector, the fuel pump or God forbid the A/C compressor takes a dump, I'm screwed. The car is only good enough that they'll guarantee the parts that are LEAST likely to fail, so once again the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty is a marketing gimmick. Granted, it's better than what most other makers offer, but It's really not that great. Its a clever marketing idea to get more buyers in the door. What percent of buyers actually get their engine replaced under the warranty? Less than 1%? Offering the 100k powertrain warranty is a safe gamble for them. Should I mention the horrible experiences I've had at my local dealer? I've been flat out lied to and told completely false and misleading things by crooked service advisors. I was told my car should have an alignment every 15,000 miles. Really? I once brought the car in for a TSB with the TSB printed out with clear instructions and they were reluctant to perform it and my car clearly had the issue described in the TSB. I had to beg for them to look at it. Anyway, I have not been pleased with Hyundai's after the sale service.
I like my car and I would definitely buy another Hyundai, but you can bet your next paycheck it won't be because of "how wonderful their warranty is."
Rant off.
I've not replaced the PCV yet. That will be my next chore. So far its sounding like Maxlife will be the winner.
Thanks for the replies so far, everyone.
Originally Posted By: maximus
My hopes aren't high if I need a warranty claim. Hyundai is notorious for denying them. The 10yr 100k warranty is a marketing gimmick.
This statement is ignorant and 100% false. If anything, Hyundai warranties more than they should have to.
10yr/100k is powertrain only. That means engine, transmission, wheel bearings, drive axles, drive shaft, carrier bearing, power coupler, differential, crank pulley, timing chain, and water pump. Nothing else, because nothing else is part of the powertrain. Sensors are not included because they are not part of the powertrain.
I work in Hyundai service, and I have seen Hyundai warranty an engine that came in with no oil in it, no oil leaks, and an OEM filter that was almost completely rusted. We had done the last service on the car 25k prior. I asked for proof of service. The customer came in with handwritten slips that had consecutive invoice numbers, but were dated 3 months apart. I faxed the obvious forgeries to our Hyundai rep. He instructed us to replace the motor.
Anyways, use any inexpensive API SN/GF-5 or ACEA A5/B5 (preferred) oil.
You're one of them so your perspective is different. The manual says the powertrain warranty only covers internally lubricated parts, which are the parts that are least likely to fail. If an injector, the fuel pump or God forbid the A/C compressor takes a dump, I'm screwed. The car is only good enough that they'll guarantee the parts that are LEAST likely to fail, so once again the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty is a marketing gimmick. Granted, it's better than what most other makers offer, but It's really not that great. Its a clever marketing idea to get more buyers in the door. What percent of buyers actually get their engine replaced under the warranty? Less than 1%? Offering the 100k powertrain warranty is a safe gamble for them. Should I mention the horrible experiences I've had at my local dealer? I've been flat out lied to and told completely false and misleading things by crooked service advisors. I was told my car should have an alignment every 15,000 miles. Really? I once brought the car in for a TSB with the TSB printed out with clear instructions and they were reluctant to perform it and my car clearly had the issue described in the TSB. I had to beg for them to look at it. Anyway, I have not been pleased with Hyundai's after the sale service.
I like my car and I would definitely buy another Hyundai, but you can bet your next paycheck it won't be because of "how wonderful their warranty is."
Rant off.
I've not replaced the PCV yet. That will be my next chore. So far its sounding like Maxlife will be the winner.
Thanks for the replies so far, everyone.
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Originally Posted By: jennings
My 2011 Sonata used some Pennzoil Ultra. Best results for me were with Havoline 5w30, plain old black bottle.
Would you say the consumption completely stopped when you switched to Havoline?? Thanks for posting. These are the kinds of posts I'm looking for.
Are Havoline and Chevron Supreme identical?
My 2011 Sonata used some Pennzoil Ultra. Best results for me were with Havoline 5w30, plain old black bottle.
Would you say the consumption completely stopped when you switched to Havoline?? Thanks for posting. These are the kinds of posts I'm looking for.
Are Havoline and Chevron Supreme identical?
Originally Posted By: maximus
I've got a 2011 Sonata with a minor consumption issue-about a quart every 4k. The engine has 65k miles.
A quart every 4,000 miles is not a consumption issue. It is normal.
I've got a 2011 Sonata with a minor consumption issue-about a quart every 4k. The engine has 65k miles.
A quart every 4,000 miles is not a consumption issue. It is normal.
Which viscosity are you running?
You might as well go to 10w30. Hyundai recommends it above 0* F.
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
You might as well go to 10w30. Hyundai recommends it above 0* F.
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With conventional oils, this affords you slightly better shear resistance.
You might as well go to 10w30. Hyundai recommends it above 0* F.
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With conventional oils, this affords you slightly better shear resistance.
WOW..you are getting consumption on 5w30? have you used that grade from the get go? Do you have a regular or turbo sonata? if it is turbo use Mobil 1 0w40. I have a 2012 sonata 2.4 gdi and get no consumption whatsoever on pennzoil ultra 5w20.
So did u switch to 5w30 after you noticed consu mption with 5w20?
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