which of these TC-W3, what's the Difference?

[earlyre]

ok, at my normal store, in the auto aisle, there are 2 different Valvoline tc-w3 oils.(there is also an much more expensive quicksilver brand) here are the bottles in question:

aside from 10 cents a qt, is there a difference between the 2 as far as a 1oz to 5Gal(1:640) gas UCL use is concerned?

http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/small-engine-oil/18

http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/small-engine-oil/16

 

[Ramblejam]

Originally Posted By: earlyre
aside from 10 cents a qt, is there a difference between the 2 as far as a 1oz to 5Gal(1:640) gas UCL use is concerned?


Nope. They're the same product with different labeling -- marketing at its finest.

http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/2_stroke_multipurpose.pdf
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/2_stroke_outboard.pdf

 

[fsskier]

Hmm, identical specs in the Product data sheet so......use some advanced logic:

Buy the bottles with the picture of a boat on the front!

 

[Chris142]

Strange that they show air cooled stuff on the bottle

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
Originally Posted By: earlyre
aside from 10 cents a qt, is there a difference between the 2 as far as a 1oz to 5Gal(1:640) gas UCL use is concerned?


Nope. They're the same product with different labeling -- marketing at its finest.

http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/2_stroke_multipurpose.pdf
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/2_stroke_outboard.pdf


Wonder if the one showing outdoor equipment has slightly different chemistry, with the same base oil.

 

[earlyre]

Originally Posted By: fsskier
Hmm, identical specs in the Product data sheet so......use some advanced logic:

Buy the bottles with the picture of a boat on the front!

but...then i'd have to spend an extra dime! Which would raise my per gallon of gas cost(640:1 gasil)from 2.74 cents to 2.80 cents! 6/100 of a cent! OUTRAGEOUS!

 

[Panzerman]

I bought a bunch of this at a Kangaroo store(similar to a 7-11) that was clearing out its oil. I bought it for 1.00 a qt and bought all they had. It seems like decent oil. Nothing to rave about, nothing to complain about. Just average. I didn't like the color, its a ugly dark green. I like the bright blue or red dye.

 

[Eddie]

One is labled a multipurpose oil and one is not. Buy the one that is not mulitpurpose with the boat picture. you may find that the recomended dose level is different even thought the spec sheets are close.

 

[147_Grain]

Valvoline must think that IF you can afford a boat, then you can afford an extra 10 cents for the quart of 2-cycle oil.

 

[Eddie]

Valvoline didn't set the price, the store did.

 

[BearZDefect]

That looks like the Valvoline 2-cycle at Meijer. The main difference I noticed at the store near me is one bottle style is old and dusty, the other is fresher.

If the price works for you, buy one of each and tell us which smells better.

 

[earlyre]

Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
That looks like the Valvoline 2-cycle at Meijer. The main difference I noticed at the store near me is one bottle style is old and dusty, the other is fresher.

If the price works for you, buy one of each and tell us which smells better.

it is indeed a Meijer store.
bought the 'multi-purpose" a while back, still have like 20 OZ left to use. it smells like Diesel, has the coloration of motor oil + original "green death" Nyquil, but the Neon did run/idle smoother and seemed to get a tiny(eensy-weensy) mpg bump @ 1oz to 5 gal gas.
I just put gas in the Sable for the first time, and dosed it with 4 oz(20 gal tank) it can't hurt @ that concentration, and I've got to do something with the 20oz of TCW3.

still need a cleaner/more fool proof method of measuring/dispensing... anyone got an empty Stabil(big bottle, measures at least an oz) they wanna part with?

 

[Ramblejam]

Originally Posted By: earlyre

still need a cleaner/more fool proof method of measuring/dispensing


I just use the the bottle my TC-W3 came in (clear bottle with ounce measurements right on the side) -- refill with the more economical gallon jug after a one-time purchase:

A couple other options:

Small - http://www.walmart.com/ip/FloTool-Gas-and-Chemical-MixMizer/16889145
Large - http://www.walmart.com/ip/FloTool-Measu-Funnel-7pc/16889147

 

[ziggy]

lol!

 

[earlyre]

at first i bought a "marinade/flavor injector" basically a large syringe that measures up to 1.5oz. then the trouble was getting the "needle" end down into the fliud level of the qt bottle, and transferring to the tank w/o making a mess.(drips from the needle end, and closing the qt bottle at the same time so it doesn't spill all over the trunk, etc)
now i have a small flip top bottle from the trial/travel size area in HBC, that has oz/ml gradients up to 4 oz.
I like the syringe for the more precise dosage, most of the time my weekly "fillup" is only a 5 gallon top off so i don't normally need more than an oz. plus, I've gotten some mighty strange looks at the pump messing with a syringe.

I'd Looked at those mix mizer types, but their gradients are labeled in typical 2 stroke ratios not in oz or ml.

 

[Ramblejam]

Originally Posted By: earlyre
I'd Looked at those mix mizer types, but their gradients are labeled in typical 2 stroke ratios not in oz or ml.


It may be difficult to see in the picture, but mine has ounce markings:

 

[Vikas]

Double chamber big bottle of empty Red Stabil would be perfect but I am not going to spend $15 for the red Stabil!

 

[earlyre]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Double chamber big bottle of empty Red Stabil would be perfect but I am not going to spend $15 for the red Stabil!

my thoughts exactly.

 

[Vikas]

Some industrial/janitorial supply house probably sells these bottles. I wish I knew Spanish, so I could ask some cleaning guys for help

 

[Panzerman]

I just use a glass Betty Crocker type mixing cup. It has ounces on it. I use glass, sue to some chemicals will attack the plastic ones.