which is the "best" oil.........

[KrisZ]

Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
of course it does. I'm just curious as to why some companies push real numbers marketing very hard and others don't try as hard and their marketing is mostly fluff.


I would like to see those "real" marketing numbers.

No oil brand, that I'm aware of, pushes "real" numbers in their marketing campaigns.
Sure, some try very hard to come up with "real looking" claims to cater to people that have no technical or engineering training, but like to run things by the numbers.
Others resort to comedy, scare tactics, endorsements from reputable car companies etc.

The mere fact that this thread was started to share the "feel good" baloney and that more and more "feel good" threads are being discussed here is a good indication that the people working in marketing are very good at what they do.

 

[BrocLuno]

I feel good when I get out an NOS can (yes) of Sta-Lube in the pretty blue color that matches my favorite martini... I wish I had a few more cases left

I have one can of Full-Bore 2-stroke oil left too

It's nearly the same pretty blue.

Why don't more folks make blue oil?

 

[Luisraul924]

Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
There is no such thing. It's an entirely subjective question and has been beat to death on here.

For me it's whatever oil that meets the specifications my vehicle(s) require and is on sale when I'm ready to purchase and do oil changes. When I changed the oil in the pickup last weekend it was Havoline 5W-30.


You clearly didn't read my post go back and try again

 

[Luisraul924]

Interesting information from many people. It's good to read. I'm not looking for oil as I've already stated, I'm sticking with what's in my signature. I didn't intend for this thread to be a "feel good" thread as someone else here mentioned. I just wanted this to be a discussion on what people have observed from companies.

 

[KrisZ]

Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
There is no such thing. It's an entirely subjective question and has been beat to death on here.

For me it's whatever oil that meets the specifications my vehicle(s) require and is on sale when I'm ready to purchase and do oil changes. When I changed the oil in the pickup last weekend it was Havoline 5W-30.


You clearly didn't read my post go back and try again

The only thing that I could gather from the OP is that you want to hear all the "I love Pennzoil/ Amsoil" stories. Your lack on interest in genuine replies seems to indicate it.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: A_Harman
I think Schaeffer has the most informative Product Data Sheets.

They're sometimes a little too informative.

 

[Merkava_4]

Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
I'm not looking for oil as I've already stated, I'm sticking with what's in my signature.


Just curious, does the Fram Ultra get fully retired at 4500 miles ?

 

[bbhero]

Nah only partially retired

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Falken
The "Best" oil for me is Canadian Tire Formula 1 Synthetic 5W20.

1) Made by Shell.
2) Good enough for my 2x year changes.
3) Runs smooth enough.
4) "Synthetic" enough for the price only during CT Boxing Week sale.
5) Okay in Winter temps.

Pretty much the best of most worlds for my application. But only if purchased during Boxing Week up here in Montreal.

The 2nd "Best" oil for me is Pennzoil Yellow Bottle 5W20

There are just no negatives in running this oil. If the $9.99 Walmart sale on this oil wasn't so rare, this would be my #1 Oil by a WIDE margin for my application.


Alright.


You win.

 

[HiPowerShooter]

It's like finding the "best" chili or BBQ. No such thing. Whatever YOU find works best for you, your climate, driving habits, oil change intervals etc...is the "best" oil for you.

Regular maintenance, regular oil/filter changes are MUCH more important than the name brand slippery stuff in between the bearing surfaces.

 

[Luisraul924]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
I'm not looking for oil as I've already stated, I'm sticking with what's in my signature.


Just curious, does the Fram Ultra get fully retired at 4500 miles ?


I change it just because I can. It's only $9 and a 5 qt jug of Ultra Platinum is only $27, my oil change with tax included only costs me $39.99 on the dot so I don't mind doing it every 4500-5000 miles.

Originally Posted By: bbhero
Nah only partially retired

lol naaah it gets gone

 

[Luisraul924]

Originally Posted By: A_Harman
I think Schaeffer has the most informative Product Data Sheets.
This is pretty cool I'll have to check them out.

 

[Luisraul924]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ

The only thing that I could gather from the OP is that you want to hear all the "I love Pennzoil/ Amsoil" stories. Your lack on interest in genuine replies seems to indicate it.


I would also like to hear all the "I love Royal Purple" stories too. I just want to see what people see in their favorite brand of oil and why. What about Royal Purple got that person using it etc. As for my lack of replies to "genuine" posts I've replied to quite a few posts so I'm not sure which posts are "genuine" enough for you. That and the fact that I work full time and I'm a full time college student makes it a tad hard for me to be on BITOG all day.

 

[fdcg27]

I've had good results with both SOPUS and Amsoil products.
I've also seen good results with Valvoline oils.
You'll note that neither blender has oils now in my sig with the exception of the Defy in my old BMW which will shortly be replaced with M1 HM.
Check the UOA sub-forum searching by my screen name.
There are no bad oils from either the major brands available everywhere or the boutique blenders like Amsoil or Red Line.
It's all good.
Is one brand better than another?
Maybe, but it's all a matter of use and intention.
As has been written before, there is no best oil.
Rather, there is a wide choice of good ones.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
I'm not looking for oil as I've already stated, I'm sticking with what's in my signature.


Just curious, does the Fram Ultra get fully retired at 4500 miles ?


I change it just because I can. It's only $9 and a 5 qt jug of Ultra Platinum is only $27, my oil change with tax included only costs me $39.99 on the dot so I don't mind doing it every 4500-5000 miles.

Originally Posted By: bbhero
Nah only partially retired

lol naaah it gets gone

I assume you aren't aware that an oil filter becomes more efficient as it accumulates debris. So by changing it early you actually allow large particulate to circulate through your engine,which tend to be of the size that are attributed to wear.
So just because you can only means you are wasting money,and resources and effectively increasing the particulate that contribute to wear.
And you are paying extra for it.
Hilarious.
I can't help but laugh at guys who run long life oils,and dump them early. They think that these long life oils will protect their engines better than a conventional does when the reality is if you run a short interval with a long life oil the only difference is cash in your wallet.
Same goes for filters. Exactly why would anyone buy a long life filter and use it for a short interval. You pay more for it because it lasts longer,the filter efficiency increases as miles accumulate
Your a student. And can I assume like most students you are budget conscious.
Why spend more for no gain. Money ain't free.
Does school teach you about value for the dollar spent. If not let bitog be your guide.

 

[Luisraul924]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
I'm not looking for oil as I've already stated, I'm sticking with what's in my signature.


Just curious, does the Fram Ultra get fully retired at 4500 miles ?


I change it just because I can. It's only $9 and a 5 qt jug of Ultra Platinum is only $27, my oil change with tax included only costs me $39.99 on the dot so I don't mind doing it every 4500-5000 miles.

Originally Posted By: bbhero
Nah only partially retired

lol naaah it gets gone

I assume you aren't aware that an oil filter becomes more efficient as it accumulates debris. So by changing it early you actually allow large particulate to circulate through your engine,which tend to be of the size that are attributed to wear.
So just because you can only means you are wasting money,and resources and effectively increasing the particulate that contribute to wear.
And you are paying extra for it.
Hilarious.
I can't help but laugh at guys who run long life oils,and dump them early. They think that these long life oils will protect their engines better than a conventional does when the reality is if you run a short interval with a long life oil the only difference is cash in your wallet.
Same goes for filters. Exactly why would anyone buy a long life filter and use it for a short interval. You pay more for it because it lasts longer,the filter efficiency increases as miles accumulate
Your a student. And can I assume like most students you are budget conscious.
Why spend more for no gain. Money ain't free.
Does school teach you about value for the dollar spent. If not let bitog be your guide.


Well Pennzoil themselves say to stay manufacturers' spec with PUP. Even though it 'could' be used to 10-15k miles I choose not to and prefer to adhere to what both Toyota and Pennzoil say, nothing wrong with that. As for the Fram Ultra, I'm pretty sure the 99+% >20 micron efficiency they claim can be performed by a new filter. It's not like they say "oh, well it's only that good AFTER it's dirty". Oh and to add to that; yes the Fram Ultra can last 15k but even in the fine print on the back of the box (at least for my filter size) it states to follow manufacturers specified OCI, again nothing wrong with following it. I'm not really too constrained on my budget luckily for me, and while I'm not rich, $40 (tax included) is really cheap for me. I used to spend $60 on Royal Purple oil+filter so it ain't all bad.

 

[Kuato]

Originally Posted By: Luisraul924

... I just want to see what people see in their favorite brand of oil and why. ...


I use Amsoil. Back in 2004, we lived in VA and the wife was driving 50 miles each way to work, M-F. At the time I used Valvoline, but was traveling a lot for work so some OCIs ran longer that I liked. Joined BITOG, got smarter and worked up to a 12k OCI with Amsoil instead of the 4-5k I had been doing before. (UOA said could go longer but that was enough miles for me)

The cost and time savings were well worth it. Also tried M1 during that time, but one of our vehicles was a Jeep with the 4.0 engine, which doesn't like M1 and my preference is to keep it simple and use the same oil in all vehicles.

Fast forward to present day, we live in MT, 60 miles (100km) from the Canadian border. For much of late December, January and February high temps are -5°F for a couple weeks at a time. I prefer synthetic for startup in those temps.

If and when we move south to more moderate temperatures, the brand might change based on how much we drive.

 

[Garak]

Generally speaking, Amsoil's cold weather numbers are pretty darned impressive, too.

 

[Luisraul924]

Originally Posted By: Garak
Generally speaking, Amsoil's cold weather numbers are pretty darned impressive, too.


So I've read... What do you make of this? https://youtu.be/uQ_vxdO_9nc

 

[Kuato]

Originally Posted By: Luisraul924
Originally Posted By: Garak
Generally speaking, Amsoil's cold weather numbers are pretty darned impressive, too.


So I've read... What do you make of this? https://youtu.be/uQ_vxdO_9nc


Lots of those, like them but this one was slightly biased. The oils were started at different times and poured from differently shaped bottles. I'd like to see it redone with a simultaneous pour from the same containers.

The WM oil was definitely hurt by the narrow bottle opening. (not that it had a chance LOL)


Synthetic FTW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-kpu7VhRY