Which flows better Honda A01 A02 v.Fram Ultra 7317

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Just wanted to know if anyone has the specs on the flow specs for the honda a01/a02 filters vs the fram ultra 7317.

i know the fram filters a lot better over the hondas 66% efficiency. Just wanted to know if the fram ultra 7317 flows as much as the oem honda filter. Want good flow with good filtering but not sure if thats 100% possilbe.

This is also for my 08 Civic Si K20z3 8400 revs

thanks
 
The Fram Ultra 7317 will flow 10gpm with 30 weight oil at 200 degrees. Not sure about the Honda filter.
 
I'm going to give a general answer without specifically addressing flow specs. I've not seen any filter posted here, nor am I aware of any filter designed and spec'd for pc use that doesn't flow well.

As said many times on this board, filter flow is an insignificant consideration in pc use and that goes for your Honda application.
 
Originally Posted By: sayjac
As said many times on this board, filter flow is an insignificant consideration in pc use and that goes for your Honda application.

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Originally Posted By: gregk24
The Fram Ultra 7317 will flow 10gpm with 30 weight oil at 200 degrees. Not sure about the Honda filter.


I've never seen this data before. Can you post up a link or let us know where this data came from?
 
Originally Posted By: dedonderosa
Just wanted to know if anyone has the specs on the flow specs for the honda a01/a02 filters vs the fram ultra 7317.

i know the fram filters a lot better over the hondas 66% efficiency. Just wanted to know if the fram ultra 7317 flows as much as the oem honda filter. Want good flow with good filtering but not sure if thats 100% possilbe.

This is also for my 08 Civic Si K20z3 8400 revs

thanks


A discussion similar to this came up a while back, that was: How does the Ultra flow compared to the PureOne in the PL14006 size. The data from Fram (ie, Motorking here) showed that the Ultra flowed better than the already good flowing PureOne.

Here's what the PureOne looks like, so the Flow vs PSID curve for the Ultra in the same sized filter will be shifted lower on the curve throughout the whole flow range. BTW, the 7317/14610 sized oil filters basically have the same media area as the 14006, so their curves would be basically the same.

Flow vs PSID Data

So, the PureOne and the Ultra are two examples of oil filters built to both filter very well and also flow very well.

And as others have already said, any good name oil filter is going to flow way more than your engine can put through it. And, engines with a positive displacement oil pump don't care if there is a filter that is a few PSI difference in flow resistance compared to the next oil filter. Only time it would matter would be at near red line with cold oil, but how in their right mind goes around racing their engine before the oil gets to full operating temperature?
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: gregk24
The Fram Ultra 7317 will flow 10gpm with 30 weight oil at 200 degrees. Not sure about the Honda filter.


I've never seen this data before. Can you post up a link or let us know where this data came from?

AAP lists the specs on Fram Ultra XG3614 to be 3gpm, 10 gpm is wix territory, I think they are all listed at 9-11 gpm on O'Reilly auto parts website.
 
Originally Posted By: 01_celica_gt
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: gregk24
The Fram Ultra 7317 will flow 10gpm with 30 weight oil at 200 degrees. Not sure about the Honda filter.


I've never seen this data before. Can you post up a link or let us know where this data came from?

AAP lists the specs on Fram Ultra XG3614 to be 3gpm, 10 gpm is wix territory, I think they are all listed at 9-11 gpm on O'Reilly auto parts website.


That flow spec doesn't make any sense. There is no oil temperature or viscosity listed, or corresponding delta-p. It just says:

Flow Rating: 3 GPM
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: 01_celica_gt
ZeeOSix said:
AAP lists the specs on Fram Ultra XG3614 to be 3gpm, 10 gpm is wix territory, I think they are all listed at 9-11 gpm on O'Reilly auto parts website.


That flow spec doesn't make any sense. There is no oil temperature or viscosity listed, or corresponding delta-p. It just says:

Flow Rating: 3 GPM

maybe, maybe not, from my understanding the Fram Ultra has more then sufficient flow for my engine.

I was just listing the spec that you asked for, that I saw as a reference once, I don't take what AAP is gonna list online seriously...
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Maybe, maybe not what? Just saying a filter flows 3 GPM with no other associated information (like oil viscosity and resulting delta-p) is useless.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Maybe, maybe not what? Just saying a filter flows 3 GPM with no other associated information (like oil viscosity and resulting delta-p) is useless.

seriously?...I was saying that I DON'T care if what AAP listed is true or not, I was just listing it for you because you asked, rather its true or not, is not relevant to me
 
Just saying a filter "flows 3 GPM" (as the AAP website says - same kind of thing with the WIX website) makes zero sense and is useless not knowing what that spec is really based on. If it does make sense to someone, I'd like to know how that's possible ... that's all. And thanks for the AAP link info.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Just saying a filter "flows 3 GPM" (as the AAP website says - same kind of thing with the WIX website) makes zero sense and is useless not knowing what that spec is really based on. If it does make sense to someone, I'd like to know how that's possible ... that's all. And thanks for the AAP link info.

now your talking like someone who has some respect, before you were questioning it as if I endorsed it.
 
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