Which filter and why? for AutoRx'ing Jeep: Supertech, Wix, or Baldwin?

Seth_TJ · Oct 6, 2004

hey guys,

I am obviously not going to spend 10+ dollars for the 3 filters I will need to do my AutoRX cycle. So I am either going to buy Supertech, Wix, or Baldwin. The Baldwin is about 5 bucks and I don't know the Supertech price or the Wix.

-In addition... How important is it that I use an oversize filter during the AutoRX run? I don't run an oversize filter under normal circumstance, I just run a Mobil 1 M1-104...

Please advise,
Seth

MarkC · Oct 6, 2004

On my Jeep (4.0), I used Napa Gold filters( as usual)normal size.
Actually, I did use a Purolator Premium Plus for the last ARX clean cycle.
Either of these filters is fine and I got them both for under $10...$5.99 for the Napa, and I think $3.99 for the Purolator.

Seth_TJ · Oct 6, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by MarkC:
On my Jeep (4.0), I used Napa Gold filters( as usual)normal size.
Actually, I did use a Purolator Premium Plus for the last ARX clean cycle.
Either of these filters is fine and I got them both for under $10...$5.99 for the Napa, and I think $3.99 for the Purolator.

thanks Mark. I am looking for I don't want to say "midgrade" because I know the Wix and Baldwin are great filters. So what i'm looking for is a filter that isn't 10+ dollars like the M1.

I was really just wondering if the Supertech quality was about the same as the Wix or Baldwin cause it is even cheaper and it is going to be a junker filter anyways for the AutoRX.

I can get the Baldwin B34 for $4.22 or the Baldwin B2 for $3.57 so if that is the way to go then i'll do that. The B2 is the oversize even.

Seems the Baldwin would surely be a little bit better than the Supertech and it is really cheap too. I'm going to get a price on the Wix...

TheFuror · Oct 6, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Seth_TJ:
hey guys,

I am obviously not going to spend 10+ dollars for the 3 filters I will need to do my AutoRX cycle. So I am either going to buy Supertech, Wix, or Baldwin. The Baldwin is about 5 bucks and I don't know the Supertech price or the Wix.

Please advise,
Seth

If you decide to go with Balwdin, I would suggest taking a look inside the filter and make sure the inner sleeve/tube is not too short.

I recently purchased 2 Baldwin B31 oil filters and noticed this problem. Baldwin says has since been corrected and claims "no problem" in using the improperly made ones.

Bob W.

Virtuoso · Oct 6, 2004

Use Wix for all three and sleep good at night.

Jelly · Oct 6, 2004

Motorcraft FL-1A anyone?

Ugly3 · Oct 6, 2004

Wal*Mart SuperTech @ $2.07 will serve you well.

Steve S · Oct 6, 2004

You spent the money for the Auto R/X what is the problem using a high quality filter to catch the crud ,especially on the rinse phase.

Ugly3 · Oct 6, 2004

High quality has little to do with price in the case of full flow oil filters.

Steve S · Oct 6, 2004

An Amsoil filter or a Baldwin or a Purolater is way better than a Fram for example.

Seth_TJ · Oct 6, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Steve S:
You spent the money for the Auto R/X what is the problem using a high quality filter to catch the crud ,especially on the rinse phase.

I do consider the Wix high quality the same with Baldwin... I just don't see paying 12 bucks for my M1-204 and taking it off so soon. It is a waste of money and I am in college and don't have a job so I gotta try to strech my money as far as possible.

Now I just need to decide if I want to get:

-Regular wix
-oversize wix
-regular baldwin
-oversize baldwin
-oversize baldwin with HPG
-regular supertech
-oversize supertech

This is a hard choice for me? Which would you go with? I just don't know how important the extra filter media in oversize is for the AutoRx'ing. I know I have the clear for a little more filter, i'm going to have to measure

T-Keith · Oct 6, 2004

I guess since it is a short OCI you wouldn't need a silicone ADBV, and you'd want a filter with more area. I'd say a purolator followed by am AC delco, both have lots of area.

wn1998 · Oct 6, 2004

look at the oil filter studies and you will see that the supertech filter from wallmart is a decent filter. I used it for my cleaning phase on my 99 TJ and plan to use one for the rinse too.

Bill Kapaun · Oct 6, 2004

How much sludge is in the engine?
If you have a lot, I'd go oversize.

Seth_TJ · Oct 7, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Kapaun:
How much sludge is in the engine?
If you have a lot, I'd go oversize.

Bill,

I'd doubt there is any... I bought the Jeep used with 13k on it and before then was just Conventional oil then at 19k I switched Mobil 1 tri-syn for 2 changes then all since then has been Mobil 1 SuperSyn with Mobil 1 filter.

I doubt there is any sludge at all....

Bill Kapaun · Oct 7, 2004

If you've been using M1, why the RX treatment?

Seth_TJ · Oct 7, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Kapaun:
If you've been using M1, why the RX treatment?

Why not?

See if it gets my fuel mileage up, i've had a fuel dilution problem, clean up anything in there, might fix my drippy rear main?

BTW guys, here are the filter prices I got:

Regular size filter B34- $4.22
Oversize Filter B2- $3.57
Oversize Filter High-efficeincy but more restrictive: B2-HPG- ~5 dollars

Wix regular size 51085 oil $3.72
Wix Oversize 51515 oil $3.40
Crossover from B2-HPG Wix# 51515R $6.40

Anyone know the what the "R" means on the end of a Wix number? Are these more efficient and more restrictive?

MONKEYMAN · Oct 7, 2004

I am using Valucraft oil filters from Auto Zone that were on sale for $1.49 and Supertech oil. After 600 miles on both vehicles doing well and the oil looks very clean. I will let you know if these filters cause a problem.

soup · Oct 7, 2004

Anyone know the what the "R" means on the end of a Wix number? Are these more efficient and more restrictive? [/QB][/QUOTE]

The "R" stands for RACING. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE THIS SERIES OF FILTERS (black paint)FOR STREET USE APPLICATIONS.

Seth_TJ · Oct 7, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by soup:
Anyone know the what the "R" means on the end of a Wix number? Are these more efficient and more restrictive?

The "R" stands for RACING. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE THIS SERIES OF FILTERS (black paint)FOR STREET USE APPLICATIONS.

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I figured they were a good bit different. Didn't know how but the price difference was almost 2x as much. I guess it is a different kind of "difference" than from a Baldwin B2 to a B2-HPG
heh

Which filter and why? for AutoRx'ing Jeep: Supertech, Wix, or Baldwin?

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