Which ATF to use for 1997 Mercedes E420 with 100k?
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Why, yes...yes it is.
Well, it appears I was wrong. I went out and found my one bottle of Mopar ATF+4 and the part number is 5013457AA.
I still stand by what I said earlier, however. The 722.6 transmission that comes in Chrysler and Dodge vehicles comes from the factory with ATF+4 in it, and that is what the manual says to use in it.
ON MY 04 C240 I PLAN ON USING M-1 ATF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THAT IS WHAT THE LOCAL MB DEALERS USE. COST IS NOT AN ISSUE.
atf is generally just an ISO 32 HYD fluid with various levels of friction modified properties requested by the transmission manufacture. The so-called synthetics likely have a superior cold performance advantage over the aledgely dino fluids.
I just might use the new Dextron 7 fluid instead just to see if there is a performance difference.
Both fluids are compatable it appears.
atf is generally just an ISO 32 HYD fluid with various levels of friction modified properties requested by the transmission manufacture. The so-called synthetics likely have a superior cold performance advantage over the aledgely dino fluids.
I just might use the new Dextron 7 fluid instead just to see if there is a performance difference.
Both fluids are compatable it appears.
The 722.6 electronic tranny supposedly requires special fancy MB synthetic fluid, originally 001-989-21-03, spec sheet 236.10, which is Shell 3403 fluid (click here for Shell spec sheet). Guess what: Red Line D4 specs indicate it is a suitable replacement for the Shell 3403 fluid. Amsoil ATF (multi-vehicle) is also suitable for this application. Both Red Line and Amsoil are cheaper than the OE MB fluid, and priced comparable to the Shell/Fuchs aftermarket replacements. Seems like a no-brainer to use Red Line D4 or Amsoil ATF for your 722.6 application.
There are two newer MB OE fluids, which supercede the old... spec sheet 236.12 is for 001-989-45-03 fluid, I believe introduced for the 722.9 seven-speed tranny. The official supplier is Shell/Fuchs/Mobil 3353... it is a low-viscosity fluid similar to Dexron-VI, Again - surprise, surprise - Red Line D6 is approved for this application. There is no current Amsoil fluid that meets this spec.
The latest MB auto tranny fluid spec is 236.14, MB # 001-989-68-03. This is supposed to supercede/replace both 236.10 and 236.12. The OE fluids are Fuchs/Titan 4134, or Mobil/Shell 134. I haven't found any major aftermarket synthetic fluid mfr (Amsoil, Red Line, etc) that has a fluid for this 236.14 application, although I don't really care as I don't own any MB's new enough to need this.
MB spec sheets are here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html
Side note: None of the Mobil-1 datasheets or product specs give even the faintest hint that Mobil-1 ATF would be acceptable in any 722.6 Mercedes application, only for older MB trannies requiring Dexron II/III (722.5/.4/.3/.2/.1). However, based on the Red Line & Amsoil compatibility, it is likely that the new Mobil-1 Multi-Vehicle ATF would be appropriate for 722.6 / 236.10 applications only (NOT 236.12 or 236.14). Use at your own risk, YMMV, etc, yadda x3...
There are two newer MB OE fluids, which supercede the old... spec sheet 236.12 is for 001-989-45-03 fluid, I believe introduced for the 722.9 seven-speed tranny. The official supplier is Shell/Fuchs/Mobil 3353... it is a low-viscosity fluid similar to Dexron-VI, Again - surprise, surprise - Red Line D6 is approved for this application. There is no current Amsoil fluid that meets this spec.
The latest MB auto tranny fluid spec is 236.14, MB # 001-989-68-03. This is supposed to supercede/replace both 236.10 and 236.12. The OE fluids are Fuchs/Titan 4134, or Mobil/Shell 134. I haven't found any major aftermarket synthetic fluid mfr (Amsoil, Red Line, etc) that has a fluid for this 236.14 application, although I don't really care as I don't own any MB's new enough to need this.
MB spec sheets are here:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html
Side note: None of the Mobil-1 datasheets or product specs give even the faintest hint that Mobil-1 ATF would be acceptable in any 722.6 Mercedes application, only for older MB trannies requiring Dexron II/III (722.5/.4/.3/.2/.1). However, based on the Red Line & Amsoil compatibility, it is likely that the new Mobil-1 Multi-Vehicle ATF would be appropriate for 722.6 / 236.10 applications only (NOT 236.12 or 236.14). Use at your own risk, YMMV, etc, yadda x3...
This is the exact design licensed by Chrysler and now built in Indiana. The infamous NAG1.
Terrific trans, and ATF4 is the spec fluid. Note that different friction materials may not mean the same fluid is ok in YOUR gearbox, but my friend's E55 likes atf4
Terrific trans, and ATF4 is the spec fluid. Note that different friction materials may not mean the same fluid is ok in YOUR gearbox, but my friend's E55 likes atf4
Shell ATF-134 can be purchased from a Shell distributor for about $15-16/gallon. When I need to change ATFfluid in my '00 E430 I'll buy 3 gallons Shell ATF-134 for about $45+tax. Nothing else meets MB specs 236.14 for less than $4/qt.
Just have the MB dealer do it, its like $250. Small change on an expensive car every 100k.
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