Where is the 3/30/300 perfect car?

[blackman777]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: blackman777

Honda Accord Hybrid (2004-07). It had all your specs except one (FWD).

And except a 300hp engine.

270..... and very high torque (electric). Feels like a 350.

 

[rjundi]

I recently drove a dream car for me, Acura NSX. <3000 lbs, 270HP and 30k used. Amazing car and well ahead of its time with the reliability of old Honda.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: blackman777
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: blackman777

Honda Accord Hybrid (2004-07). It had all your specs except one (FWD).

And except a 300hp engine.

270..... and very high torque (electric). Feels like a 350.

Sure...

It's rated at 253 HP and 232 lb-ft of torque, and max torque is not reached until 5000 rpm.

 

[dailydriver]

Yes, I bought it in late 1999, so it is not "new" now, but I did only pay $19.6 K for it back then, it is RWD (of course, most on here will blast/berate it for being a 'stick' axle), was rated at 305 HP at the crank, but actually made MORE THAN this at the rear WHEELS.

The way I was able to option it, with NO weighty extras (which one CANNOT do nowadays, sadly enough), it only weighs in at ~3150 pounds, wet (it would be even less if I pulled out the air, passenger airbag, and stereo).

It will do mid 12 second @~115 MPH quarter miles all day long, and still pass any emissions tests, and get > 30 mpg on the highway (and up to 22/23 mpg in the city if driven like a granny).
It handles very well with the few suspension mods I made (YES, DESPITE the dreaded rear "stick axle"

), and with decent tires.

I really like this car, even though many on here fall all over themselves to dis/flame the model, AND the company which built it EVERY chance they get.

I guess that's why I've kept it for so long, and drive it every day/chance it get.

 

[Merkava_4]

Auto manufacturers need to start using more aluminum and carbon fiber to lighten things up.

You can only squeeze just so many miles per gallon out of 5W-20 oil.

 

[SteveSRT8]

As long as you bring your wallet. Exotic materials are expensive, and make it much harder to pass the crash standards.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Auto manufacturers need to start using more aluminum and carbon fiber to lighten things up.

You can only squeeze just so many miles per gallon out of 5W-20 oil.


BMW i3 is almost 50% carbon fiber.

Biggest problem with CF is that it can't be recycled. Some marques have large recycling operations (BMW for ex) which goes towards their sustainability score.

 

[Rand]

High strength steel is good too.

just checkout the shenanigans they have to use to use the jaws of life on a subaru B pillar...

 

[hattaresguy]

CF also can't be fixed, so expect insurance to reflect that.

When a CF spinnaker pole fails it explodes, when an aluminum one fails it bends and can in a pinch be spliced.

Same with with CF body parts on a car.

Zonda has figured kind of figured out a way around this, but don't expect to see that kind of CF blend in a normal car for 10-20 years. Lambo is the leader right now in cheap CF, beleive it or not. You might just see forged or whatever they call it CF parts in a Jetta in a few years thanks to them.