Reasons to Keep an Older Car

I drive my old stuff A, because I'm cheap,
B, because I love the driving dynamics. It isn't for everyone but it appeals to me. Totally mechanical all the way down to breaker points, carburetors, and a mechanical voltage regulator on the car.
C, self reliance. I can fix just about anything myself on my cars and trucks. No computer, no software subscriptions necessary.
 
Maine charges ad valorem/ excise tax and it goes down every year until a car is five years old. One then gets to pay the same rate forever, even when it's an antique. When I drove total beaters I pined for the day I'd get a five year old car that looks nearly new, LOL.

PARTS get cheaper when cars get older. Once something's six or seven (heh) years old, "problem solver" type parts show up in the Dorman catalog. Particularly for cars that get fleet use and accelerated wear. Then you have youtube videos of how to fix common issues and don't have to be at the forefront of dealer diagnostics being the first guy ever to solve a problem, or the guy paying for the privilege. And you get junkyards with your model, particularly if you buy near the end of a body style.

My kid's rattling around in a 2008 Prius, a body style that came out in the 04 MY. In the 22 years since, what's been added to the car? He has traction control, ABS, side airbags, TPMS, rear camera, "fob in pocket" keyless entry & start.
 
As I've said before, I like both older and newer cars. I ordered my Club Sport to my specs and 30 years later I still love it. As for my other cars, I almost always buy a 2-3 year old CPO car and drive it for 6 or 7 years. As I mentioned in another thread, I'm in no hurry to replace the C43 because it does everything I want a modern sport sedan to do- although adding a RENNtech tune is under consideration.
 
I've always said that the best way to get an old beater is to buy it new and then keep it for years.
This^^
I absolutely do not worry about depreciation as I drive them till the wheels fall off. I regularly drive my 1992 Saturn that simply refuses to die.
 
As somebody living in their 20s in LA, bought a new 2025 Mazda MX-5 a month ago. It's been awesome and don't miss my old 2005 Camry.
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While the 2005 Camry was reliable, it was time to let it go cause can't realistically keep 2 cars in LA. Can't complain about my 40-45mpg on the hwy. If I just wanted a commuter car, I would have kept driving my Camry but this car has been on my mind since I was first licensed...

2025 is the 2nd year of the MX-5 ND3 generation, it's been pretty well refined. This car came out in 2016 and hasn't changed that much, probably one of the last true cars without much technology involved.
 
My kid's rattling around in a 2008 Prius, a body style that came out in the 04 MY. In the 22 years since, what's been added to the car? He has traction control, ABS, side airbags, TPMS, rear camera, "fob in pocket" keyless entry & start.

I owned a 2008 Prius and it was a great car but, my 2024 Prius PHEV with about 50ish miles of EV range and about combined 220 hp is a game changer!
 
Some time back, I posted some things I thought would help a person keep a car running for a long time. But then I thought, what are the economic reasons for doing that.

1. When you buy a new vehicle, generally you are charged sales tax on the difference between the sales price and the trade-in value, at least here in PA. We pay 6% sales tax. So if you buy a car at $45.000 with a $15,000 trade-in, you will pay tax on $30,000. In PA at a 6% rate, that is $1800. What do you have to show for that $1800? Absolutely nothing. You are better off using that money to keep an older car running (if you have kept it in good shape). Have all the fluids changed, replace drive belts, timing belts, water pumps, etc.

2. New car or truck? Large and rapid depreciation. Vehicles are one of the major things you buy in life that takes away your money through depreciation. Generally, real estate goes up; vehicles go down. In five years, depending on what you buy, you can lose 50% of the value or more. $45.000 could mean you lose $22,500. Trade it in? You know are faced with more sales tax. It is a losing game.

3. Insurance on new and complicated vehicles is going to be higher than on an older vehicle, particularly if you get to the point (10 years of ownership or thereabouts) when you can drop collision coverage. Less outlay, more money in your pocket! And if you do get a dent, a scratch or some rust, you are less likely to be moved by emotion to get it repaired than a new car.

4. New cars have a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty ( there are exceptions) so after this time, you are now faced with possible repairs on very expensive systems. With new cars, you have screens, computer control of most everything, lane keeping, stop/start, etc. Repairs can be EXPENSIVE on systems like this. It is one reason not to buy a used Mercedes or BMW where systems are staring to age out.

5. Take the money lost on depreciation and sales tax and you quickly realize that paying a few thousand dollars on a well maintained, well running car to do preventative maintenance to get another five or more years is really a no brainer.

Any thing I missed on this?
But what is your safety worth? That old car maybe super reliable and look almost new but lack the engineered structural improvements and equipment to greatly increase safety. I am considering buying new cars just for that- I'm really afraid of the giant pickup trucks and overweight SUVs out there these days.
 
I have owned one new car but had many new company cars. New doesn't mean much to me. I prefer cars that are engineered to be repairable by me. Sure I keep them clean and looking good but I don't let them slip to unreliable. I make sure my wife's car is kept reliable since she hauls my legacy grand daughters to many events and school. When the battery gets to about 4 years, I replace it. Her Mazda 5 now has 160k on it and I just replaced the water pump and serpentine belt and antifreeze. It still drives like new My old 90 Ford Ranger is reliable and gets my usage now that I am retired. My other ride is a 05 Yukon with 226 K on it that I keep up for family trips It isn't pretty but it takes us and brings us back home and gets 18mpg on the highway. As for new here in Kentucky, They cost too much for license, taxes and insurance. I'm happy with old if kept up.
 
But what is your safety worth? That old car maybe super reliable and look almost new but lack the engineered structural improvements and equipment to greatly increase safety. I am considering buying new cars just for that- I'm really afraid of the giant pickup trucks and overweight SUVs out there these days.

I don't know how far you have to go back in time to find a vehicle that isn't safe. Probably the 1970's. If you are afraid, go ahead and get yourself a Canyonero. https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Canyonero
 
I applaud folks that practice frugality regarding used car purchases. The last 1/2 ton truck I purchased was a 2 year old vehicle. 60k miles later the engine failed. It’s a gamble not knowing how the vehicle was driven even when there are service records. Sure, engines are failing with these late model vehicles regardless of what service intervals an owner adheres to. But for me, I budget for a new purchase and drive it for at least 10 years. It’s never abused, adhered to proper service intervals, and proactive repairs are priority while I’m the sole owner.
 
As somebody living in their 20s in LA, bought a new 2025 Mazda MX-5 a month ago. It's been awesome and don't miss my old 2005 Camry.
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While the 2005 Camry was reliable, it was time to let it go cause can't realistically keep 2 cars in LA. Can't complain about my 40-45mpg on the hwy. If I just wanted a commuter car, I would have kept driving my Camry but this car has been on my mind since I was first licensed...

2025 is the 2nd year of the MX-5 ND3 generation, it's been pretty well refined. This car came out in 2016 and hasn't changed that much, probably one of the last true cars without much technology involved.
Congrats! Just bought one of these too! My first brand new car. Love it so far.
 
I don't know how far you have to go back in time to find a vehicle that isn't safe. Probably the 1970's. If you are afraid, go ahead and get yourself a Canyonero. https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Canyonero
newer cars have improved structures that dissipate force and spread it out so it does not impact you. Just peruse the Highway Safety site and see even recent cars have upgrades to structure. Awareness of whats going around you aka "situational awareness" is really important in dense fast moving traffic and available just recently. For someone that lives in Baltimore, you are probably well aware of its usefulness and contribution to preventing accidents.
For you, just keep driving your hooptie(s)LOL
 
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But what is your safety worth? That old car maybe super reliable and look almost new but lack the engineered structural improvements and equipment to greatly increase safety. I am considering buying new cars just for that- I'm really afraid of the giant pickup trucks and overweight SUVs out there these days.
I've had my Club Sport for 30 years; it was my HPDE instructor car from 1996 to 2012.
I must be really be living on borrowed time...
 
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