Reasons to Keep an Older Car

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Some time back, I posted some things I thought would help a person keep a car running for a long time. But then I thought, what are the economic reasons for doing that.

1. When you buy a new vehicle, generally you are charged sales tax on the difference between the sales price and the trade-in value, at least here in PA. We pay 6% sales tax. So if you buy a car at $45.000 with a $15,000 trade-in, you will pay tax on $30,000. In PA at a 6% rate, that is $1800. What do you have to show for that $1800? Absolutely nothing. You are better off using that money to keep an older car running (if you have kept it in good shape). Have all the fluids changed, replace drive belts, timing belts, water pumps, etc.

2. New car or truck? Large and rapid depreciation. Vehicles are one of the major things you buy in life that takes away your money through depreciation. Generally, real estate goes up; vehicles go down. In five years, depending on what you buy, you can lose 50% of the value or more. $45.000 could mean you lose $22,500. Trade it in? You know are faced with more sales tax. It is a losing game.

3. Insurance on new and complicated vehicles is going to be higher than on an older vehicle, particularly if you get to the point (10 years of ownership or thereabouts) when you can drop collision coverage. Less outlay, more money in your pocket! And if you do get a dent, a scratch or some rust, you are less likely to be moved by emotion to get it repaired than a new car.

4. New cars have a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty ( there are exceptions) so after this time, you are now faced with possible repairs on very expensive systems. With new cars, you have screens, computer control of most everything, lane keeping, stop/start, etc. Repairs can be EXPENSIVE on systems like this. It is one reason not to buy a used Mercedes or BMW where systems are staring to age out.

5. Take the money lost on depreciation and sales tax and you quickly realize that paying a few thousand dollars on a well maintained, well running car to do preventative maintenance to get another five or more years is really a no brainer.

Any thing I missed on this?
 
Taxes In SC the county levies a property tax on vehicles annually. Payment is required before the state will send the annual sticker for the plate. Since the vehicle depreciates, the tax goes down. My 2007 Grand Cherokee is about $11 while the 2017 GTI is about $123.
 
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I only buy new cars but they are basic cars and I keep them far longer than most ( years/mileage ).

Sitting in my 15 year old Civic ( no rust ) with 550,000 KMS drinking coffee at McDonalds as I read this.

For me, there is only so much I would spend on any vehicle, new or used.

Different strokes for different folks.
 
For personal use, it's difficult to imagine a scenario where buying a new car makes more financial sense than choosing a lightly used one or simply keeping your current vehicle through maintenance and repairs.

I hope everyone here reaches a point where the money aspect of the new versus used debate doesn't matter. Owning a brand-new car is great if you accept that it's not the most financially wise choice. And not every financial decision has to be the smartest. At some point, losing $3-5K on taxes and another $3-5K in instant depreciation might simply not matter for your financial picture. Regarding depreciation, that's only a realized loss when you sell the vehicle years down the line (the longer, the better). So yes, the asset is depreciating, but only on paper, and the actual loss is less impactful because it's so far in the future (net present value approach).

Think about the lack of repairs and maintenance a brand new car will need. It has new brakes, new tires, and new fluids, spark plugs. All of this will save you time and money. Does this completely offset the taxes and depreciation? Unfortunately, no. But it does help balance it out a bit, depending on how much you value your time.
 
There is more to life than dollars and cents sometimes. I could keep my wife's 08 CRV running reliably for another decade for her with minimum effort, but she's been driving it for 12yrs and wants something new. 3yo Honda Pilots have minimal depreciation vs new ones and I don't see the point to risk an accident or something that didn't have time to show on the carfax. If you're going to keep a car for 10yrs then I think there is a logical argument for buying new, but if your handy you could always buy something older with low miles and come out ahead financially.

I will keep an older car for myself to commute in and the Ram for when I need to do truck stuff.
 
I'm a cheap SoB. I hate Fords a lot but as much as I complain about my Grand Marquis, it sure is cheap to keep going. Unfortunately for me, I'm probably going to pick up another panther if Garett Mitchell doesn't destroy all of them.

Each time it's broken down on me , I start looking at newer vehicles. I could go pay cash for something like a brand new Frontier or a used 1500 truck. It's a lot of money. So I just keep the old car going.

I drive a $3500 car. My coworkers - especially ones who make less money than me - have definitely made comments about my crappy old car. But I spend maybe $1000 a year on repairs and my insurance for the car is $400? a year or so for liability only.
 
☕Agree! I bought this last April, one owner, 119,000 miles currently at 134,000 miles for $3,200. It’s our day trip poverty wagon and runs great. So far I’ve spent around $1,000 for some new suspension parts, one new rear brake drum, new windshield, plugs, air filter, fluids etc. Basic liability insurance $600 annually and averages right at 30 mpg. My wife’s 2013 CPO Lexus looks and runs like new with only 94,000 miles and she’s not interested in a new car. Between the 2 of us we’ve owned probably 12 new vehicles and could cut a check for a new car today but for us a new car doesn’t make $en$e.

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I only buy new cars but they are basic cars and I keep them far longer than most ( years/mileage ).

Sitting in my 15 year old Civic ( no rust ) with 550,000 KMS drinking coffee at McDonalds as I read this.

For me, there is only so much I would spend on any vehicle, new or used.

Different strokes for different folks.
I thought you drove a Fit?
 
I thought you drove a Fit?
I have two Honda’s : 2012 Honda Civic & 2015 Honda FIT.

The FIT isn’t very quiet, but same for the older A320 I fly at times ( 321 is pretty quiet….cockpit further away from engines ) and it’s very fuel efficient.

The FIT is my 360 KM round trip airport commuter car.

My wife has a 2013 Civic.
 
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Taxes In SC the county levies a property tax on vehicles annually. Payment is required before the state will send the annual sticker for the plate. Since the vehicle depreciates, the tax goes down. My 2007 Grand Cherokee is about $11 while the 2017 GTI is about $123.
Indiana also has an annual tax on vehicles that is collected when one renews plates. Well, plate since Indiana is a 1-plate state. :D It goes down every year but once the vehicle hits 10 years, the owner still pays a minimal amount on that tax.
The absolutely best reason for keeping an old car is it is payed off. No car notes.
I worked with someone who justified trading in her car when the warranty expired by saying that she'd be paying for repairs out of pocket so she'd rather have a car with a warranty and know how much she'll be paying each month instead of worrying about what will break and how much that will cost.
 
My practice is generally to buy new (at the end of the model year.)
In my experience, I have found in that scenario, that I can purchase new, for close to the same price as a vehicle the same model and year, used.
That is where I aim at the top end of pricing. I have been successful numerous times doing that.
I prefer to buy new and make my own used cars.
Given that the largest gap that I ever had was $1500. on an Odyssey van, and actually bought a 2004 Ford Ranger new for $2249. less than I could have bought the truck used with 15K on it.
The advantage here is full warranty, fresh tires/brakes, and no wear and tear on the vehicle.
With this I maintain them well, and generally run cars out to the end.
Both of the vehicles I regularly drive have over 100K on them.
The Accord replaced a 2000 Taurus with over 275K on it.
That's fine with me, the older they are, the more I like them.
I do tend to keep one fairly new for Mrs. Tdbo.
The Pilot (purchased new) replaced a 2006 Odyssey with 80K on it when I sold it.
I am toying about purchase of a new truck for myself.
However, the only truck that I can find that is even close to what I want is the Nissan Frontier.
However with that company in the shape that it is in, I am hesitant to purchase a potential orphan.
So unless something changes, I'll stick with my old truck and patch it as necessary (right now, it is about due for a new starter.)
However, the body is still solid, it still looks good, and I have people still asking me if it is for sale.
But since I still like it, and full coverage insurance is only $89/year, I'm in no rush to get rid of it.
 
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