Wheel hub and brands

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Hi guys. Have a 2004 Buick Park Ave non SC. Need a left front wheel hub. Tring find what brands to get. Is Detriot Axle ,National auto parts or AC Delco are ones looking at. Also if the wheel hub is bad ir going bad can it mess up my brakes and or rotors? Been told by parts stores no and yes. Thanks
 
Detroit axle is something of a generic eBay part, but- but- but- I've used them with success, including on an Olds Silhouette which is probably not far off from your Buick in terms of design.

Your rotor is clamped between the rim and bearing, so if you have slop in the bearing the rotor wobble will push the brake pads apart, making a gap that gets taken up when you step on the pedal the next time.
 
I looked up Detroit Axle main page. Thry have a 10 yr warranty
I cleaned my dog yard this morning and will give a 10 yr warranty on their excrement. If you're unhappy at any time, I'll give you fresh excrement no questions asked!!

That said, Detroit Axle is probably getting the same parts as all other low end bearings, so they're probably "fine" for most applications for a few years.

Make no mistake: they've run the numbers and know that ~70% of Detroit Axle buyers have vehicles that are likely to die for other reasons in the next 2-3 years. A certain number will be totalled in accidents. Another 20% are likely to sell the vehicle in the next two years (including flippers). Of the ones that do experience a failure of their part, only 7% are likely to pursue warranty replacement via mail order.

My numbers are obviously pulled from my dog's posterior, but the point is that there's minimal financial risk in providing a "long" -- or even lifetime -- warranty
 
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I cleaned my dog yard this morning and will give a 10 yr warranty on their excrement. If you're unhappy at any time, I'll give you fresh excrement no questions asked!!

That said, Detroit Axle is probably getting the same parts as all other low end bearings, so they're probably "fine" for most applications for a few years.

Make no mistake: they've run the numbers and know that ~70% of Detroit Axle buyers have vehicles that are likely to die for other reasons in the next 2-3 years. A certain number will be totalled in accidents. Another 20% are likely to sell the vehicle in the next two years (including flippers). Of the ones that do experience a failure of their part, only 7% are likely to pursue warranty replacement via mail order.

My numbers are obviously pulled from my dog's posterior, but the point is that there's minimal financial risk in providing a "long" -- or even lifetime -- warranty
So what brand would you use?
 
I would go GM. I've had Timken, Moog and AZ hub bearing not make it 25k miles.
Had a Sable with a bad hub bearing, no bearing noise either, warp a new rotor as it had that much play in it. Since it was quiet I didn't check it for any play when doing the brake job. Now I check for play in the bearings.
 
I wonder how many failed bearings are from improper install? I have seen guys hammer the axle nut home all my life.
Lots of them. GM torque spec for the cv nut on these have been revised more times than I have had hot dinners (not really). IIRC 134ft.lb was the setting that allowed them last a very long time, need to look the spec up.
Removing the bolts holding the hub can be a real bear, they used red loctite on the threads. Push the front cv axle in as far as it can go and you can get the socket in there without removing it, use a long ratchet and heat the hub where the bolts are before trying to move it, heat them one at a time as you remove the bolts.

You may need one of these to get it out of the knuckle.

https://www.amazon.com/Wheel-Hub-Re...=hub+shocker&mfadid=adm&qid=1763302312&sr=8-7

https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Motor-...hub+shocker&mfadid=adm&qid=1763302361&sr=8-11
 
So what brand would you use?
If I bought it to flip it (ie the taillight warranty = I promise it'll be ok for as long as I can see your taillights as you drive away), I'd use Detroit Axle

Otherwise I'd try for BCA, Schaeffer (sp?) or SKF from RA. Or of course GM Genuine (not AC Delco) if still available and not more expensive than the other good brands.
 
If I bought it to flip it (ie the taillight warranty = I promise it'll be ok for as long as I can see your taillights as you drive away), I'd use Detroit Axle

Otherwise I'd try for BCA, Schaeffer (sp?) or SKF from RA. Or of course GM Genuine (not AC Delco) if still available and not more expensive than the other good brands.
Why gm genuine not ac delco
 
Why gm genuine not ac delco
I usually use gm genuine on mission critical stuff like fuel pump or evaporation. Bearings, like everything, depends on the price and situation. Otherwise, I've been using the mainland stuff, but delco is seldom the low bid.
 
I went to the local Ford dealer for brake rotors and pads because aftermarket brakes would rust and pit so bad after a year I had to replace them again. The dealer recommended Motorcraft maintenance brakes. The all around set was $500, but they’ve lasted 4 years/ 40,000 miles. So, it may be AC/Delco is not anywhere near the quality of genuine GM. You almost can’t trust any parts anymore!
 
I cleaned my dog yard this morning and will give a 10 yr warranty on their excrement. If you're unhappy at any time, I'll give you fresh excrement no questions asked!!

That said, Detroit Axle is probably getting the same parts as all other low end bearings, so they're probably "fine" for most applications for a few years.

Make no mistake: they've run the numbers and know that ~70% of Detroit Axle buyers have vehicles that are likely to die for other reasons in the next 2-3 years. A certain number will be totalled in accidents. Another 20% are likely to sell the vehicle in the next two years (including flippers). Of the ones that do experience a failure of their part, only 7% are likely to pursue warranty replacement via mail order.

My numbers are obviously pulled from my dog's posterior, but the point is that there's minimal financial risk in providing a "long" -- or even lifetime -- warranty
The fresh excrement still works, as long as it in a location that can be easily and frequently hosed off. I fear that soon there will be nothing but excrement so I'm forcing myself to accommodate to its odor. I see nothing, I smell nothing!
 
Delco OE are okay to good, gold is loose stool crap and the silver is like the explosive diarrhea of car parts.
I'm guilty of using the "A" suffix rotors, aka Advantage (misnomer). They work -- can't really speak to longevity
 
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