‘17 Civic - stripped wheel studs

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Took my Civic for a tire rotation/balance to the place I got the tires from. 2 minutes in, was delivered the news that one stud was broken (twisted off the lug nut with the tip of the stud), and another one stripped with the lug nut cross threaded and stuck. Was referred to a shop to execute the “repairs” at no cost to me. Was told it’s safe to drive with only three lug nuts holding the wheel…I know what you’re going to say about that, but my house is 5 miles away and I did just drive home.

As some of you may know, removing the broken stud on these generation civic is not a walk in the park - requires the removal of wheel hub. I’ve requested that the wheel bearing is replaced at the time of the repair (OEM bearing), and alignment performed after the repair is complete. Shops says no alignment is needed, since no suspension components will be disconnected. I don’t quite understand how they are planning on pressing the wheel bearing out without removing the knuckle and having it disconnected first. Is there a safe and non-harmful way to do that I’m not aware of?

It’s a day #2 and the tire place kinda ghosted me and I think I’ll have to pay them a visit tomorrow to see what’s the status of the parts they were ordering, and figure out when the shop is actually going to do the work.

Btw, my trusted Honda technician told me that the job wheel likely require the hub replacement as well, since 9 out of 10 times it comes out damaged. Total cost and Honda dealer is ~1,000$ for said repairs.

Appreciate the feedback and any advice.

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Usually studs can be replaced without pulling the hub out of the bearing.

Even if you do need to pull it out chances are you wouldn't need an alignment, even if you have to pull the tie rod off.

I'd rather have my dust shield bent slightly to get it in there as opposed to taking all of that stuff apart.
 
Those Honda lug nuts suck. The “chrome” finish on them will swell as the steel lug nut underneath them rusts. I’ve had to replace a few of them.
I’ve never come across a wheel hub that had to be removed to replace a lug bolt as all I’ve ever done has a specific spot that is carved out to allow the lug bolt to barely be replaced.
 
Those Honda lug nuts suck. The “chrome” finish on them will swell as the steel lug nut underneath them rusts. I’ve had to replace a few of them.
I’ve never come across a wheel hub that had to be removed to replace a lug bolt as all I’ve ever done has a specific spot that is carved out to allow the lug bolt to barely be replaced.
They weren’t rusted and in perfectly fine condition. Rushing and using the air gun, that’s what did it.

Broken stud wheel have no issues clearing the knuckle, but a full length new one won’t fit, unless the knuckle is ground down or the stud head “modified”. At least that’s what I’ve gathered while doing my research. And Honda tech told me the same. But I’m open for anyone’s real-world first hand experience
 
Theres plenty. pull the 3 bolts for the backing plate. theres an access hole you line up with the caliper mount on the knuckle and drive out the stud. reverse to reinstall. That stud only pays 0.3 hours btw
That’s for 10th gen civics?
 
This isn't helpful, but this is why you don't use big tire places. I pull all wheels and take them to Discount with center caps removed.

I realize not everyone can do this. I'm lucky that I own three fullsize pickups, so hauling a full set of truck tires is no problem
 
I have no clue what a 10th gen is (people seriously need to stop referring to cars by some arbitrary generations, year make and model pleae) but its how I replaced a front stud on a 2017 Civic last week, exactly the way the factory service manual says to replace it
thanks for sharing your experience!
 
I was in a similar situation a few years back. Honda sells a replacement stud that is slightly shorter than the original and solves the clearance problem.
Do you happen to have the link or part # handy?
 
I was in a similar situation a few years back. Honda sells a replacement stud that is slightly shorter than the original and solves the clearance problem.
An angle grinder and belt sander sells something similar ;) If you want a pilot point....the lathe has that, too
 
This isn't helpful, but this is why you don't use big tire places. I pull all wheels and take them to Discount with center caps removed.

I realize not everyone can do this. I'm lucky that I own three fullsize pickups, so hauling a full set of truck tires is no problem
It’s not a big tire places, two shops in the Houston area. They’re actually quite good, I’ve always recommended them to all of friends. I think they’ve hired bunch of new guys and that seems to be the culprit
 
I have no clue what a 10th gen is (people seriously need to stop referring to cars by some arbitrary generations, year make and model pleae) but its how I replaced a front stud on a 2017 Civic last week, exactly the way the factory service manual says to replace it
There’s still one lug nut seized half way. Do I just snap it off with the impact?
 
Looking at the end of the broken stud:
There are beautiful "half moon circle" lines - indicative of a fatigue failure (meaning the failure happened in steps)
There is a little rust on the outer circles - this stud has been failing for quite some time
Several studs are involved, at least one is reportedly cross threaded

That stud finally snapped as the final result of progressive fatigue failure, probably after being over-tightened some time ago.
 
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