What’s your Home Charging Price / kWh?

[E365]

In the spirit of this gasoline price thread, I’m curious what everyone is paying per kWh for home charging, and in what state? Anyone get a “free” EVSE from their utility company? Anyone have to install a 2nd meter for lower EV rates?

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In Minnesota, I’m paying:

7.3¢ / kWh for “Super Off-Peak” (11p-5a)
10.5¢ / kWh for Off-Peak
15.6¢ / kWh for On-Peak

They gave me two free EVSEs ($1,000 total) but you had to switch to those Time-Of-Use rates to accept that EVSE deal.

They also offer 3.2¢ / kWh Off-Peak and 11.4¢ / kWh hour On-Peak, but that required paying for and installing a 2nd service, meter and dedicated panel. Maybe in the long run that would have been best

 

[JeffKeryk]

I believe my off peak rate is 37 cents per kWh, but I have solar panels so my electric bill is maybe $15 per month? Dunno, I don't really waste time thinking about it.

 

[dogememe]

With taxes and fees probably $0.50-0.70/kwh. I hate PG&E

 

[2.7ecoboostFordBronco]

Electricity costs about $0.25 / kWh in Anchorage, Alaska.

 

[RhondaHonda]

All in on this bill for 1,560 kWh after taxes and fees, 11.01 cents/kwh.

We are still on winter rates which are 10.6 cents/kWh for the first 750 kWh and 7.14 cents/kwh for just the electric cost.

 

[Astro14]

Flat rate (I didn’t opt for peak/off peak because the car doesn’t use much electricity relative to the house) in Virginia Beach is about 14 cents/kwh.

So, charging the plug in Volvo costs about $2.00 for 35 miles.

 

[bmod305]

In my area of Minnesota-

Time of Day rate based
7.25 cents kWh 8pm to 8am all days
13.3 cents kWh 8am to 4pm M-F 8am to 8pm Sat & Sun
22.5 cents kWh 4pm to 8Pm M-F

They also offer a flat rate of $50 per month with a 1,200 kWh per month limit. When I had the 50 amp circuit installed, they gave me a $500 rebate, installed ToD meter free, and gave me a free L2 charger. Now, they just offer the $500 rebate and free ToD meter. They (Connexus Energy) also bought wind credits (50,000 kWh worth) in my name so they say my EV energy usage is wind generated. They gave me a pretty cool badge to put on the car that my EV electricity is wind generated.

 

[Snagglefoot]

In British Columbia it is just under 10 cents per kWhr. That’s converted to US currency. This is the higher tier typically seen for larger homes that consume more power or for homes plugging in a car charger.

 

[kballowe]

East Central Missouri. We got a 12% rate increase last year. Here are the new numbers.

Summer Rate (June through September) Customer Charge - per month $9.00
Energy Charge - per kWh 15.60¢

Winter Rate (October through May) Customer Charge - per month $9.00
Energy Charge - per kWh
First 750 kWh 10.62¢
Over 750 kWh 7.14¢

 

[Astro_Guy]

Our marginal rate is 20.7 cents per kWh. It costs about $1.50 to charge my PHEV in exchange for twenty miles of driving. This ignores the contribution of our solar panels which offset 88% of our total electrical useage.

Our customer charge is $11.31 per month meaning it costs $135.72 per year just to be connected to the grid.

 

[Brons2]

With taxes and fees probably $0.50-0.70/kwh. I hate PG&E

holy sheet
ROI on solar must be measured in months in CA.

I'm about 11 cents a KWH all in, total bill divided by number of KWH used. We are on level billing averaged over a year and about $190-$195/mo including EVs and keeping the house AC at 72 degrees 24x7.

 

[JeffKeryk]

holy sheet
ROI on solar must be measured in months in CA.

I'm about 11 cents a KWH all in, total bill divided by number of KWH used. We are on level billing averaged over a year and about $190-$195/mo including EVs and keeping the house AC at 72 degrees 24x7.

Not anymore. I am on NEM2, which pays about 37 cents per kWh for production, but NEM3 now pays wholesale.
Sometimes you get lucky; I sure did.

 

[Brons2]

Not anymore. I am on NEM2, which pays about 37 cents per kWh for production, but NEM3 now pays wholesale.
Sometimes you get lucky; I sure did.

This is as it should be, why should utilities pay more to purchase power than they could on the open market? You're essentially asking the utility's customers to pay for someone else's solar.

I was referring to just the base rate when I said ROI should be quick. You'll never reach ROI where I live, but, it's a hedge against outages if you pair solar with a battery system. I saw a lot of solar pop up around here after the infamous 2021 winter storm where people had no power for many days.

 

[JeffKeryk]

This is as it should be, why should utilities pay more to purchase power than they could on the open market? You're essentially asking the utility's customers to pay for someone else's solar.

I was referring to just the base rate when I said ROI should be quick. You'll never reach ROI where I live, but, it's a hedge against outages if you pair solar with a battery system. I saw a lot of solar pop up around here after the infamous 2021 winter storm where people had no power for many days.

PG&E made the NEM2 deal. They had to add zero equipment to get power at peak use time. Basically, I am the vendor and PG&E is the customer, just like when I buy from them. They sell it at close to double what they credit me.

Do not feel sorry for those crooks. By the way, there are other charges that partially offset what they credit my production.
But still, my solar project ROI has far exceeded projections as electricity has continued to increase in price.

 

[Brons2]

PG&E made the NEM2 deal. They had to add zero equipment to get power at peak use time. Basically, I am the vendor and PG&E is the customer, just like when I buy from them. They sell it at close to double what they credit me.

Do not feel sorry for those crooks. By the way, there are other charges that partially offset what they credit my production.
But still, my solar project ROI has far exceeded projections as electricity has continued to increase in price.

I don't feel sorry for PG&E. The point is that utility customers should not be forced to subsidize other customers' solar installations, which is essentially what prices paid above wholesale by the utility does.

 

[OVERKILL]

PG&E made the NEM2 deal. They had to add zero equipment to get power at peak use time. Basically, I am the vendor and PG&E is the customer, just like when I buy from them. They sell it at close to double what they credit me.

Which, as we've discussed previously, is just like how all other private generators that are market participants are compensated. The problem with adding correlated weather-dependent generation is the correlation. They "eat their own lunch". Without the NEM subsidy schemes, solar uptake would have naturally hit a plateau due to its impact on the value of energy produced during those peak periods. The subsidies drove that to surplus, with other ratepayers picking up the tab, and this resulted in the peaks moving, which were then chased with subsidized batteries, adding yet another layer of cost.

They finally scrapped the subsidy scheme of course, which will incentivize those who install solar to add storage to avoid those new peak periods, but the payback horizon has been pushed out significantly, as it should be.

 

[2005jettatdi]

I charge during off peak, when the sun is shining and little else is using electricity. The nominal cost per KWH is about 14 cents. The charger uses more power than the panels produce, so I am paying for some of it.

My electric bill last month was $ -38.04. I paid the utility $ 300 a year ago February. We have $ 253.37 of that left and should have a negative bill this month. Solar works well in the desert, even without the tax credits.

 

[Astro_Guy]

@2005jettatdi I would love to hear more about the nature of your solar installation.

 

[Torrid]

Including taxes it breaks down to $0.17 per kWh for me. We're flat rate. It says we have the option for flex rate here, but considering how on call my job is and how much I end up charging during the day I don't think I would benefit from it, it would actually hurt my bill.

 

[2005jettatdi]

@2005jettatdi I would love to hear more about the nature of your solar installation.

16 panels, about 6 KW, single inverter.