What's The "Best" Oil Filters ? Looking inside...

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Hi all,

Found a handy summary of auto oil filters and cut-aways by Russ W. Knize. He cut them open the hard way, with a lathe. He did 20 plus brand plus his comments. I guess oil filter cutter tools wasn't available to him.

However, I'm interested since I drive my cars forever with really high mileages I really notice when the engine compression, power and smog tests become an issue.

It got me to thinking, I better look at this issue before my newer car starts to tank.

For years with other things on my mind, I gave filters and oil not too much thought other then to change it often. But since I started using FilterMags, etc, I see I could do more to stretch engine life even if GM doesn't want me to! lol

Here's the link to the pdf:

https://app.box.com/s/wzgr2aw4ano0uhuc2x4m
 
Interesting paper but it's 13 years old. Don't know if it's still relevant.
 
Cutting open filters is interesting but you need to take it with a grain of salt. Cutting open a filter will not tell you how it performs its primary job... How well does it filter.
 
My problems with filters has always been the ADBV. The media seems fine in most every one I've used. But the clatter on start-up with some has been really annoying ...

Of all the filters I've tried in 50 odd years, WIX and Baldwin have been my go-to units when in doubt. I have had decent luck with MC and some Fram's too
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The air filter is the most important filter on the engine. The most important thing an oil filter can do is not fail.
 
Hi all,

With low Beta Ratios across the board for plain and fancy conventional auto oil filters, somebody came up with the idea of crossing over to Donaldson hydraulic oil filters with way better Beta Ratios but with threads and dimensions that make them a match!


"THE BEST OIL FILTER? - NOT AUTOMOTIVE !"

Link to May 20016 PDF plus Pics:

https://app.box.com/s/co7bv8t1lgh4a2lhk7sde5bse73k9ljw
 
Probably MicroGreen of the current crop of filters out there.

It's well constructed and touts some high efficiency numbers.

But bring your wallet because they aren't cheap. Looks like around $15 on Amazon.
 
Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud
Hi all,

With low Beta Ratios across the board for plain and fancy conventional auto oil filters, somebody came up with the idea of crossing over to Donaldson hydraulic oil filters with way better Beta Ratios but with threads and dimensions that make them a match!


"THE BEST OIL FILTER? - NOT AUTOMOTIVE !"

Link to May 20016 PDF plus Pics:

https://app.box.com/s/co7bv8t1lgh4a2lhk7sde5bse73k9ljw




The article you posted includes mention of the Fram Ultras predecessor the Fram xtended guard and mentions how automotive filters are useless below 20 microns (mention of beta 1.2 @ 5 microns) and below but the current Fram Ultra is over 99% efficient at 20 microns and 80% @5 microns, hardly comparable to pitiful automotive filters which are 50% @ 20 microns which the article seems aimed at.

Did they even do any testing? They say automotive filters are 16% @ 5 microns which some may be.
 
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Probably MicroGreen of the current crop of filters out there.

It's well constructed and touts some high efficiency numbers.

But bring your wallet because they aren't cheap. Looks like around $15 on Amazon.


Really? That's interesting news. What are they?
 
Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud
Hi all,

With low Beta Ratios across the board for plain and fancy conventional auto oil filters, somebody came up with the idea of crossing over to Donaldson hydraulic oil filters with way better Beta Ratios but with threads and dimensions that make them a match!


"THE BEST OIL FILTER? - NOT AUTOMOTIVE !"

Link to May 20016 PDF plus Pics:

https://app.box.com/s/co7bv8t1lgh4a2lhk7sde5bse73k9ljw


They show Beta graphs on page 6. Efficiency vs particle size doesn't follow a perfectly straight line like they show.

They are more like this:
 
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Probably MicroGreen of the current crop of filters out there.

It's well constructed and touts some high efficiency numbers.

But bring your wallet because they aren't cheap. Looks like around $15 on Amazon.


Really? That's interesting news. What are they?


You beat me to it.

SilverC6 please post a link to those high efficiency numbers.
 
How did I ever make it to the miles I have on my vehicles without worrying about filters and filter magnets? I mean, not only do I not use magnets, I use "rock catcher" filters such as the Toyota OEM, Honda A01 and BMW OEM (Hengst).

Just lucky I guess.

Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud

Hi all,

Found a handy summary of auto oil filters and cut-aways by Russ W. Knize. He cut them open the hard way, with a lathe. He did 20 plus brand plus his comments. I guess oil filter cutter tools wasn't available to him.

However, I'm interested since I drive my cars forever with really high mileages I really notice when the engine compression, power and smog tests become an issue.

It got me to thinking, I better look at this issue before my newer car starts to tank.

For years with other things on my mind, I gave filters and oil not too much thought other then to change it often. But since I started using FilterMags, etc, I see I could do more to stretch engine life even if GM doesn't want me to! lol

Here's the link to the pdf:

https://app.box.com/s/wzgr2aw4ano0uhuc2x4m
 
Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud
Hi all,

With low Beta Ratios across the board for plain and fancy conventional auto oil filters, somebody came up with the idea of crossing over to Donaldson hydraulic oil filters with way better Beta Ratios but with threads and dimensions that make them a match!


"THE BEST OIL FILTER? - NOT AUTOMOTIVE !"

Link to May 20016 PDF plus Pics:

https://app.box.com/s/co7bv8t1lgh4a2lhk7sde5bse73k9ljw

The only other thing I would check would be how many GPM it flows. That and isn't hydraulic oil thinner than lets say 10/40 oil?

ROD
 
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis


The article you posted includes mention of the Fram Ultras predecessor the Fram xtended guard and mentions how automotive filters are useless below 20 microns (mention of beta 1.2 @ 5 microns) and below but the current Fram Ultra is over 99% efficient at 20 microns and 80% @5 microns, hardly comparable to pitiful automotive filters which are 50% @ 20 microns which the article seems aimed at.



> When I searched FRAM Ultra, they claimed 99% and footnote #5 referred to "ISO 4548-12 for particles greater than 20 microns", not smaller.

http://www.fram.com/search-parts/Part-Detail/?PN=XG7317

No Mention of 80% at 5 microns at all.

FRAM would be suggesting a near-flat filter performance curve that defies the fact that 5 micron particles are 4 times smaller then 20 microns. All other filter curves for big buck industrial filters seem to follow the graph in the pdf.

Usually the only way to get 80% @ 5 microns is to manufacture filter pores that are only 8 to 10 microns in size, in that case I'd expect FRAM to make a 99% claim at just 10 or 11 microns instead of +20 microns.

My own goal is to slap 2 FilterMags on the best possible filter. So far I've gone 6 months with medium-amber oil (Quaker State Synthetic 5w30) and 6 PPMs Fe (down from 14 PPMs) in the oil.

>> Do you have a link you can post for the 80% at 5 micron FRAM claim?
 
The 80% @5 microns comes from Fram if you ask the technical director Motorking who is a member here or email them for the information. You can contact Motorking directly if you look at his username.

He also said the entire Fran Ultra lineup is up to 99.9 @20 microns now but it's not published yet.
 
Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud
My own goal is to slap 2 FilterMags on the best possible filter. So far I've gone 6 months with medium-amber oil (Quaker State Synthetic 5w30) and 6 PPMs Fe (down from 14 PPMs) in the oil.


Hey speaking of filter magnets, what about your statement in this thread?

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Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Probably MicroGreen of the current crop of filters out there.

It's well constructed and touts some high efficiency numbers.

But bring your wallet because they aren't cheap. Looks like around $15 on Amazon.


Really? That's interesting news. What are they?


Enjoy!!! For what it's worth...

http://www.microgreenfilter.com/microgreen_spin_on_oil_filter#Technology

Also,

http://www.microgreenfilter.com/microgreen_spin_on_oil_filter#Testing

And here's the cartridge style marketing stuff..

http://www.microgreenfilter.com/microgreen_element_oil_filter
 
Lots of engines make it to high miles. That doesn't mean a thing.

I've seen engines running at 300K that were all clapped out at 100K, but still ran every day. Its really common for small block chevys to run hundreds of thousands of miles while leaking like sieves.

Lots of 15 year old imports with 1-150K run like champs but wont pass a smog test.

Without leak down numbers, or something like smog data showing how clean an engine is running "high mileage" claims are meaningless.


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Well the worth is zero.

Why is it everyone that is a fan of these filters keeps imagining stuff on that website that isn't there? It's not only you, it is several people on BITOG.

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Enjoy!!! For what it's worth...

http://www.microgreenfilter.com/microgreen_spin_on_oil_filter#Technology

Also,

http://www.microgreenfilter.com/microgreen_spin_on_oil_filter#Testing

And here's the cartridge style marketing stuff..

http://www.microgreenfilter.com/microgreen_element_oil_filter
 
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