Whats so great about Jeeps?

HemiBenny said:
Look at you coming in here trying to pick a fight. 😂

I will say, given the choice, I’d take an 80 series LC over anything. (Preferably triple locked, but that’s a unicorn nowadays.)

This doesn’t reference Jeeps, but I heard something that cracked me up. They said, “If you want to get deep into the bush, take a Land Rover. If you want to get out, take a Land Cruiser.” 😂
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I've been on countless trails and the tougher the trails, the more Jeeps are the dominant vehicle, not just for stock capability, but for the ease of modification and affordability. Also, the availability of parts is superior. Try showing up at AutoZone and having a good chance the part you need is in stock with a Land Cruiser or Land Rover.

I love all the other off-road machines out there. And today we have more choices than ever.
 
idk, there is something about owning the right one. I loved my 93 ZJ. It and I connected better than any other vehicle I’ve owned.

Long live the JZ, 4.0.
 
The motor guy said:
It's jeep weekend at our local beach this weekend, which inspires the question. What's so great about jeeps and their cult like following they have? All I see is a body style that hasn't been changed in 40 years
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They are great with mods off road, and very good without. That's it. It's what they were meant for. Going off road. Even the base models without lockers are good for the beach and easy trails.

If you don't leave pavement, then they aren't all that great. Not the most reliable (no, not even stock), and not the most comfortable. Most people who buy them, and Broncos, and Bronco Sports, and most SUVs in general are essentially posers just wanting the rugged or wilderness look. The most any of these will do is maybe a gravel or mostly groomed dirt road to the fishing spot, or camping spot by the lake.
 
stanlee said:
I maintain the only reason they are special and desirable (to true Jeep enthusiasts) are being exclusive to solid f/r axles outside of three quarter ton and larger work trucks. This is why a TRUE jeep enthusiast is a repeat owner and never really swayed by Broncos, 4Runners/FJ Cruisers etc. Jeep knows Ford, Toyota etc aren’t going back in time for a less sophisticated, costly solid front axle that’s inferior 95% of the time (100% for most) so they’ll continue to be special unless Jeep caves in and abandons the front solid axle like everybody else did decades ago including themselves but the wrangler.
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What surprised me when I first got mine - was the 10 mile long dirt road to my camp. It’s a horrible road - and the last couple miles can flood/wash. Having been down it in some “nicer” 4WD’s - I was expecting a terrible ride. Just the opposite - the 4 wheel coils soaked it up - and it was the best run ever …
 
Just how forgiving the suspension is going into and out of highly undulated driveways, time and time again year after year. Miles of potholed dirt roads, greasy west coast snow that people in really cold climates don't understand and make fun of us for our perceived ineptitude in it. Towing fishing boats. I could go on.

My 2014 Wrangler Sport is at the very top of the 25 or so vehicle list I've owned. Still feels as rock soild as it did 12yrs ago💪
The Pentastar 3.6L IMO is the perfect powerplant for the application. I like speed and power but a smooth reliable V6 is perfect in the Wrangler. 6spd manual a must for me, even though I've heard the 8spd auto in he new ones is the way to go.
 
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Legs4Arms said:
Just how forgiving the suspension is going into and out of highly undulated driveways, time and time again year after year. Miles of potholed dirt roads, greasy west coast snow that people in really cold climates don't understand and make fun of us for our perceived ineptitude in it. Towing fishing boats. I could go on.

My 2014 Wrangler Sport is at the very top of the 25 or so vehicle list I've owned. Still feels as rock soild as it did 12yrs ago💪
The Pentastar 3.6L IMO is the perfect powerplant for the application. I like speed and power but a smooth reliable V6 is perfect in the Wrangler. 6spd manual a must for me, even though I've heard the 8spd auto in he new ones is the way to go.
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They really have that 3.6 tuned very well for the vehicle don’t they? My good friend has a gladiator and it’s a heavy vehicle. He’s kept the hard top, added a bed rack and keeps a 300lb tent on top; this is not a lightweight vehicle. While the power train isn’t hitting 0-60 in 6 seconds, it provides responsive power seamlessly without complaining, and that engine revs without complaint. I gotta say, they did good with it.
 
meep said:
They really have that 3.6 tuned very well for the vehicle don’t they? My good friend has a gladiator and it’s a heavy vehicle. He’s kept the hard top, added a bed rack and keeps a 300lb tent on top; this is not a lightweight vehicle. While the power train isn’t hitting 0-60 in 6 seconds, it provides responsive power seamlessly without complaining, and that engine revs without complaint. I gotta say, they did good with it.
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Yep, my Pentastar and 8 speed is very capable of blending in on a freeway ramp - or long sand pulls even in 4Hi …
 
meep said:
They really have that 3.6 tuned very well for the vehicle don’t they? My good friend has a gladiator and it’s a heavy vehicle. He’s kept the hard top, added a bed rack and keeps a 300lb tent on top; this is not a lightweight vehicle. While the power train isn’t hitting 0-60 in 6 seconds, it provides responsive power seamlessly without complaining, and that engine revs without complaint. I gotta say, they did good with it.
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And your friends would have the PUG version which is better than mine. I'm too lazy to look it up but the Pentastar won best engine of the year a few times I think.

If you've ever watched Highway Thru Hell, The Coquihalla Highway is kinda legendary (Al Quiring is the biggest monster alive and the man I'd like to be when I grow up). Although I'm a pussy that flies when it's snowy, the Wrangler has been up and over the Coq more times than I can count in the summer, never missed a beat. I love it :cool:
Jeeps FTMFW🆒
 
I've always wanted a Wrangler since I was a kid. But as I've grown up, I've wondered why they're so expensive for the fact they're made by Stellantis and share some parts with Pacificas. They're like an American icon. Just look cool and stuff. But I ain't paying that type of cash for one.

Edit: I'd still look at buying an older one some day. Just not the new Stellantis varieties, personally.
 
siriusc1024 said:
They are until you mod them. Lots of ways to get it wrong.

Jeep death wobble is common on lifted jeeps. The typical solution is a steering damper. The correct, and often overlooked, solution is to keep the panhard bar and tie rod in parallel. This is accomplished with a draglink flip, dropped pitman arm, or both.

Another example of problems with lift kits is that lifting the vehicle will change the pinion angle as well as caster angle. This leads to excess driveshaft wear and way oversensitive/uncontrollable steering. You'll see (expensive) adjustable control arms that are advertised to address this problem. They don't maintain geometry through the entire suspension travel. The bushings also wear out pretty fast, even if lubed. When you hit a bump the caster angle still changes because it isn't constrained to maintain parallel. The correct solution is a fully boxed control arm bracket. It uses the stock arms and maintains geometry through suspension travel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-bar_linkage
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I saw a Jeep get death wobbles. It was scary, the wheels looked like they were going to fly off the front. Fortunately, they were able to pull over before really bad things happened
 
fozzdesy2001 said:
I saw a Jeep get death wobbles. It was scary, the wheels looked like they were going to fly off the front. Fortunately, they were able to pull over before really bad things happened
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It's relatively common on trucks with solid front axles too, which includes HD RAM's, Ford Super Duty trucks...etc. And, like with the SFA Wranglers, it is exasperated by lifts and modified suspension.
 
HowAboutThis said:
I've always wanted a Wrangler since I was a kid. But as I've grown up, I've wondered why they're so expensive for the fact they're made by Stellantis and share some parts with Pacificas. They're like an American icon. Just look cool and stuff. But I ain't paying that type of cash for one.

Edit: I'd still look at buying an older one some day. Just not the new Stellantis varieties, personally.
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Look for a 2014 with under 30,000kms on it like mine😎
You're right though, they hold their value VERY well in the used market.
 
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