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This is why I hoarded OG Ultra's, First Brand cheapened the hell out of everything they touched.
What's going on at fram?
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Ordered a cutter from Amazon. I'll post pictures tomorrow to see if it's just an st4967 with a fancy paint job.
If it has metal end caps, then yes it's basically a SuperTech MP. If it has fiber end caps then it's a basic SuperTech.
I guess i should look carefully at the Honda 15400-PLM-A02 (Fram in a blue can) that I currently use, I don't accumulate them any longer, I supply the oil, dealer supplies the filter. I'll go to the parts counter next visit and take a look. They've had a silicone ADV, metal core and fiber end caps as long as I can remember, supposed to built to Honda specifications but have never found any real specs on the actual filter fiber used or filtration efficiency. UOA's have always shown very low particle counts. Dangerous to "assume" anything these days. Before Honda discontinued the 15400-PLM-A01 (?) Made by Filtech, that was my filter of choice, it was a well built filter.
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Ecores are solid imo. Which is why ill likely switch over to supertech white cans soon
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What's wrong with the filter? The only thing is the price for me otherwise that's a healthy filter.
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I bought the Fram PH4967 for $4. Then I cut one open. The ecore tube is wide, and they also slimmed down the element a lot. So the depth of the pleats was pathetic. They also in the PH reduced the height of the can to match the Toyota N1.
Will be informative to see what they did to the XG, it should have a thicker adbv than the PH, and will have better media. I have an XG4967 made in 2024 on a car, and it has a metal center tube with louvers.
Will be informative to see what they did to the XG, it should have a thicker adbv than the PH, and will have better media. I have an XG4967 made in 2024 on a car, and it has a metal center tube with louvers.
Its a sad day when a Chinese made filter is better quality than one made in the USA by a company that has been making filters for 80 years.
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Hope to see what’s going on at Fram soon. But not in a hurry just curious.
I wouldn't bother cutting it open; I you looked into the center core, That 97,5%
Do you have a lab to analyze the excised media?
Just run the thing for crying out loud!
Fram is FB/Trico now. The old heyday of wire backed ultra is no more.
Sorry for the emotion, I just hit the tipping point of all this oil filter hand wringing
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFFOhps9dt9yNI_o19vImdAI wouldn't bother cutting it open; I you looked into the center core, That 97,5%
Do you have a lab to analyze the excised media?
Just run the thing for crying out loud!
Fram is FB/Trico now. The old heyday of wire backed ultra is no more.
Sorry for the emotion, I just hit the tipping point of all this oil filter hand wringing
Who cares. Only FRAM I use is OG ULTRA’s I find at sales or eBay or from friends.
How do you like Carquest Premium oil filters as a good option ? I picked up a few on sale not long ago from Advanced Auto with 15% off .
Best option currently IMO. I run those and other PG made clones myself.
Looks like a regular AC Delco because that’s what the inside of a AC Delco looks like
Carquest is made by purolator so it’s probably good
Not made by Purolator anymore. Now made by Premium Guard.
