Typically use Zaino, but I now need a good cleaner wax and Zaino isn't one. My wife's van is covered with little fly poop specs that won't wash off, so I need a good cleaner wax to remove it. Any suggestions? I've been thinking about trying Zymol.
What's a good cleaner wax?
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I think this stuff is great:
http://www.meguiars.com/?auto-paint-cleaners/Deep-Crystal-System-Paint-Cleaner
It is only a cleaner, not also a wax, so you need to wax after you apply and remove the cleaner.
http://www.meguiars.com/?auto-paint-cleaners/Deep-Crystal-System-Paint-Cleaner
It is only a cleaner, not also a wax, so you need to wax after you apply and remove the cleaner.
Klasse AIO, hands down.
Cleans, polishes and protects.
Cleans, polishes and protects.
For OTC stuff, Mother's Carnauba Cleaner Wax is great.
None! But if you absolutely must use it,then buy SONAX Cleaner/wax which is hard to find but some internet retailers do sell it.Just use it for emergency situations,such as bird poo, or sprinkler splatters. Then go home wash your car and apply a coat of wax. I don't buy cleaner/wax, think about it, how can a product both clean and at the same time apply a coat of wax? Can someone explain this to me? Better buy a bottle of quick detailer spray and use it instead of cleaner/wax. Two step mild glaze such as 3M Imperial Handglaze and quality PASTE wax are the bare minimum if you take pride in your ride. Save the cleaner/wax for you YUGO or daily beater.
Cleaner,Glaze,Polish,Rubbing Compounds and wax each of them serve a different purpose. I just don't buy into cleaner/wax combos that claims to clean/polish/protects. How can a product combine three different steps into one liquid? Exactly at what point does it first clean,then polish and finally protects? Explain that to me as if I'm a six year old boy.
If you don't believe me, go to a pro detail garage and ask their opinion on cleaer/wax combos and they'll probably give you a 30 minutes tirade on the subject,and if the place happens to be a paint shop too, ask them what they think of polishes,cleaners,wax that contains silicone.
If you don't believe me, go to a pro detail garage and ask their opinion on cleaer/wax combos and they'll probably give you a 30 minutes tirade on the subject,and if the place happens to be a paint shop too, ask them what they think of polishes,cleaners,wax that contains silicone.
I don't know if this was directed at me or not. I guess I didn't really answer the question since Klasse is technically not a "wax". Are you familiar with Klasse?
"Klasse All In One Polish will remove oxidation, minor swirls, old wax, and other surface blemishes."
"Acrylic is different than wax, silicones, and polymers. This polish will bond to your car’s surface just like the previously mentioned treatments, but it will not cause any change to your paint, and you don’t have to worry about drying time. Klasse All In One dries as fast as you apply it, and there is no risk of hazing or streaking. All-In-One contains no abrasives or silicones."
I can remove leftover bug guts from my headlights after washing with this stuff. It leaves the Lexan headlights, clear and the water beads right off of them. I only use it on my paint 2 or 3 times a year as it removes any protection that was previously applied to the paint.
I don't use cleaner wax. I apply a P21S on top of my Klasse AIO and SG for increased depth and shine.
I will probably go with the AIO. I know Klasse makes good stuff. Having to deal with this issue is all my fault for not keeping up with the polishing on the van. When I was keeping a coat of Zaino on at least once a year, bug stuff washed right off. The only problem with Zaino is that it has nothing it that's good for cleaning. It has to be applied to an absolutely clean surface. However, it's been my experience that if this done at least once a year, nothing beats Zaino for durability.
I used to use Zymol on my BMW. I can't remember what exactly it was. It was powder blue and smelled like suntan lotion. I bought it at Autozone. I think it was the most expensive thing they had there.
For the price I wasn't all that impressed with it. It looked good for a few days but the rain wore the beading away pretty quickly. The cleaning abilites were ok, nothing mind blowing to justify the high price.
It doesn't taste as good as it smells.
For the price I wasn't all that impressed with it. It looked good for a few days but the rain wore the beading away pretty quickly. The cleaning abilites were ok, nothing mind blowing to justify the high price.
It doesn't taste as good as it smells.
I use Zymol too. I love that stuff. It can be hard to find but it is out there.
Well, seeing as the store bought Zymol is mfr'd and distributed by Turtle Wax, I can sorta understand why some car detailing fanatics won't use it. Kinda like buying a Jaguar and finding it's a Ford underneath :gasp:
AIO is pretty good stuff although they did reformulate it recently for the worse. Still, I use it when I need a good quality almost-no-abrasive cleaner that offers a bit of acrylic protection. Top it with a good carnauba or Zaino and you'll be good to go.
AIO is pretty good stuff although they did reformulate it recently for the worse. Still, I use it when I need a good quality almost-no-abrasive cleaner that offers a bit of acrylic protection. Top it with a good carnauba or Zaino and you'll be good to go.
Any hunts on how to get the wax off of the black porous molding?
3M has a good wax remover that also removes silicones.
3m Adhesive and wax remover is good stuff, but a little pricey. I save it for difficult or special jobs.
You stand a fairly good chance of getting the wax out of your modlings by keeping it wet with the 3M for a few minutes (it doesn't evaporate too fast), then blotting with a porous cloth. You might need to repeat a few times.
Regular old hardware store paint thinner might work too.
I was afraid to use thinner cause I thoght it might dry it out or something. I will try the 3M stuff if I can find it. Thanks XS650
3M Products are pricey but they are worth every cent! 3M Products really does what it claims to do with high quality,research proven ingredients and chemicals. I'd rather spend a little more and get the job done with less hassle than buy a product with unproven track record or aren't backed up by R&D such as 3M.
If you really want a cleaner/wax, I would definitely look into Meguiar's #66 Quick Detailer. Even though it's called Quick Detailers, it's really a cleaner/wax. It's the most agressive of any of their other cleaner/wax products. A lot of people on detailing forums have good things to say about it.
http://www.autodetailingsolutions.com/Meguiar's Professional Polishing Products.htm
http://www.autodetailingsolutions.com/Meguiar's Professional Polishing Products.htm
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