"Presto Multi Wax" as good as fluid film?

[WeyounDS9]

Is Presto Multi Wax any good?
Anyone ever used it?
Was in a german auto parts store trying to buy a Fluid Film equivalent and that is what they handed me after some conversation ( I speak fluent German so no comms issues, they knew what I was looking for)

Thing is the bottle says "to be treated areas must be clean, rustfree and dry". It says "must" not should.

Issues:
- Still rust free thats good
- Even if I find a washrack and do my ****est the underbody will never get completly clean, especially since i have to drive it home from here ( its very illegal to wash your car in your driveway here)
- its raining here almost daily and this will keep my underbody form ever drying out after washing if I have to drive the car at all. Which as my only car I need to drive it daily.

So here I sit proud owner of two bottle of Presto multi wax protectant spray and I just dont see a window to use it.
if this was fluid film I think it was less than an issue sinc eits know to creep through even some dirt.
Presto Multi Wax says it "creeps" too, yet they still state "must" be clean. Not "should".

 

[Trav]

I wouldn't worry about it till spring, just underbody wash the car once a week if the roads have been treated, 3 mo is not going to make much difference. Fluid film sucks, it stinks, doesnt last, washes off real easy, the Presto is pretty good and hold up decent. I have used both more than once or twice, the Presto does a much better job.

 

[daves87rs]

Loving my krown here so far. Seen decent amount of salt……

 

[demarpaint]

If you have an Advance Auto Parts this: Blaster Surface Shield is tough to beat for the price. Way better than FF, they might have it in 1 and 5 gallon pails too. I ended up grabbing 3 gallons and a few spray bombs for touching up. As @Trav stated wait until the spring to treat it.

 

[eljefino]

I would personally define clean as "without salt." You're going to get dirt on top of this oily stuff, what's a little under it?

I'd risk the home car wash, just be quick about it and do it at a random time. If you're doing it in winter to remove salt try to get some warmer water into the mix.

 

[doitmyself]

Loving my krown here so far. Seen decent amount of salt……

My Patriot is on it's 12th year Krowned, with good results. Gives me peace of mind driving down the salt laden roads. First applications were in Windsor (only place), but there are now a half dozen dealers in southern Michigan. It was always interesting getting back into Michigan at the border...."you went into Canada to get oil sprayed on your car?" Yah, right. When asked to roll down back window for a peek also resulted in chuckles as I had to reach behind me to operate the hand crank, lol.

 

[WeyounDS9]

I wouldn't worry about it till spring, just underbody wash the car once a week if the roads have been treated, 3 mo is not going to make much difference. Fluid film sucks, it stinks, doesnt last, washes off real easy, the Presto is pretty good and hold up decent. I have used both more than once or twice, the Presto does a much better job.

So I got these 2 bottles of Presto Multi Wax.
Can you give me some tips for applciaiton?
Just spray into the boxed frame and everywhere on the underbody and on surfaces/joints where chance of rust is greater?

This being a Nissan the frame itself will be almost impervious to rust, the suspension parts and the rear subframe assembly, is where you ever see anything beyond surface rust in a nissan body-on-frame SUV.

I have owned a 2006 pathfinder beofre that I purchaed after it lived its entire lfie in the rust belt.
So I know exactly where rust is likely to form.
On that car the suspension parts, where rusted out and the rear subframe assembly had rust spots and the tow receptacle.
The frame itself was in real good shape.
I replaced the susension parts and did heavy fluid film applications and after 18 months of onwership the rust had not advanced in any visble way in those trouble spots treated with FF.

Do I use thie spray just like FF?
Or is there mroe preparation or it it more like a paint applciation?
That last thing is what worries me a bity and seemed implied by what they wrote on the bottle, (must be clean, rustfree and dry), where with FF I always felt one could rely on the creep for it to works its way to touch the metal.

 

[doitmyself]

Are you going to do the most rust prone areas: interior of doors, rocker panels, fenders.................?

 

[WeyounDS9]

Are you going to do the most rust prone areas: interior of doors, rocker panels, fenders.................?
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I was going to do all the underbody but focus on the places I remember that rusted on my rust belt Pathfinder that I bought used.
Was going to stay away from anyhtng interior since i figure it would smear and look bad.
Any advice?

 

[doitmyself]

I was going to do all the underbody but focus on the places I remember that rusted on my rust belt Pathfinder that I bought used.
Was going to stay away from anyhtng interior since i figure it would smear and look bad.
Any advice?

It won't look bad because it's inside all of the interior spaces. Advice? I believe these interior spaces are best done with an oil type product that really creeps into the folded metal/spot welded areas. It doesn't require good washoff properties. You can buy long aerosol tube extenders with "fog" tips: https://www.amazon.com/spray-can-nozzle-extension/s?k=spray+can+nozzle+extension

This is armchair advice because I pay Krown to do mine annually and I work with my dealer to insure it is done to my standards. Some people DIY everything others pay for everything. I'm in the middle, but sway towards the DIY side (until I get too old).

 

[Trav]

So I got these 2 bottles of Presto Multi Wax.
Can you give me some tips for applciaiton?
Just spray into the boxed frame and everywhere on the underbody and on surfaces/joints where chance of rust is greater?

This being a Nissan the frame itself will be almost impervious to rust, the suspension parts and the rear subframe assembly, is where you ever see anything beyond surface rust in a nissan body-on-frame SUV.

I have owned a 2006 pathfinder beofre that I purchaed after it lived its entire lfie in the rust belt.
So I know exactly where rust is likely to form.
On that car the suspension parts, where rusted out and the rear subframe assembly had rust spots and the tow receptacle.
The frame itself was in real good shape.
I replaced the susension parts and did heavy fluid film applications and after 18 months of onwership the rust had not advanced in any visble way in those trouble spots treated with FF.

Do I use thie spray just like FF?
Or is there mroe preparation or it it more like a paint applciation?
That last thing is what worries me a bity and seemed implied by what they wrote on the bottle, (must be clean, rustfree and dry), where with FF I always felt one could rely on the creep for it to works its way to touch the metal.

What vehicle is this, new or used? has it been treated before and with what?

 

[WeyounDS9]

Purchased new a year ago.
Has not seen rain it's first 6 months.
Spent a winter in the US, but it was Florida (non coastal)
A few weeks ago we had a couple of days where they put salt on the roads. That was first time vehicle saw road salt.
Since then it has rained quite a few times, which I am sure has washed off the salt.
vehicle is not terribly dirty but not clean.

I wonder if a very thorough wash of the underside with the hose will make it clean enough for this spray?

 

[Trav]

No to be a pain with questions but what is this, an truck, SUV, car, full frame? There are products that work better depending on what it is.
The Presto is great for some places on all these but not all places. The aim is keeping rust away long term correct?

 

[WeyounDS9]

Double -post, self deleted,

 

[WeyounDS9]

No to be a pain with questions but what is this, an truck, SUV, car, full frame? There are products that work better depending on what it is.
The Presto is great for some places on all these but not all places. The aim is keeping rust away long term correct?

This is a 2023 Armada full size SUV.
Body-on-frame.
The goal is to prevent long term rust.
Thre is currently no noticable rust, except maybe I'd expect some light surface rust on some bolts. When I got my oil change I stole a glance under the vehicle..

Not so worried about the Frame itself, its a made-in-Japan Nissan frame they are very resilient on rust.

But the suspension components long term could be at risk as will the bolts.

In the past I also owned a 2008 Pathfinder 4x4, V8, also body-on-frame, broadly similar vehicle that I bought used; after it spent all its life in the heavy salted northern US rust belt. And had clearly not been taken care of.
I bought it beause the powertrain was in such fantastic shape.

Frame itself was fine, just some surface rust, but the rear subframe was noticably rusted nd its bolts rusted into place and just about the entire suspension needed replacing due to excessive rust.
So now I feel I have a good idea what the problem areas are on a vehicle of this type.
Now after a dozen years, I would replace suspension anyway that doesnt bother me, but I want peace of mind with items like rear subframe assembly and high risk areas elsewhere.

Shortly after purchase in early October last year I gave it a fairly heavy Fluid film spray with 2 -3 cans, to include into the holes of the boxed frame in the direciton of travel (where I figured spray could get inside.)
I know fluid film is supposed to be renewed eveyr 6 months, though some say it can last up to a year if u dont drive thru too many rainstorms.

Despite all the time that has passed, I imagine a lot of the FF I sprayed into the inside of boxed frame is still in there, and I would say some surfaces components still look a bit oily from the FF application.

 

[daves87rs]

My Patriot is on it's 12th year Krowned, with good results. Gives me peace of mind driving down the salt laden roads. First applications were in Windsor (only place), but there are now a half dozen dealers in southern Michigan. It was always interesting getting back into Michigan at the border...."you went into Canada to get oil sprayed on your car?" Yah, right. When asked to roll down back window for a peek also resulted in chuckles as I had to reach behind me to operate the hand crank, lol.

Yep, I had a few friends who did the same thing. I wanted to take my Cobalt over there, and regretted not doing so. All the washing could not save it. Makes me wonder where some of the other places are- we got ours done in Monroe. Girlfriend has a Tacoma which has been Krowned for years, and it looks great for being almost ten years old.

Trax still looks clean underneath even after two saltines so far………

 

[Trav]

This is a 2023 Armada full size SUV.
Body-on-frame.
The goal is to prevent long term rust.
Thre is currently no noticable rust, except maybe I'd expect some light surface rust on some bolts. When I got my oil change I stole a glance under the vehicle..

Not so worried about the Frame itself, its a made-in-Japan Nissan frame they are very resilient on rust.

But the suspension components long term could be at risk as will the bolts.

In the past I also owned a 2008 Pathfinder 4x4, V8, also body-on-frame, broadly similar vehicle that I bought used; after it spent all its life in the heavy salted northern US rust belt. And had clearly not been taken care of.
I bought it beause the powertrain was in such fantastic shape.

Frame itself was fine, just some surface rust, but the rear subframe was noticably rusted nd its bolts rusted into place and just about the entire suspension needed replacing due to excessive rust.
So now I feel I have a good idea what the problem areas are on a vehicle of this type.
Now after a dozen years, I would replace suspension anyway that doesnt bother me, but I want peace of mind with items like rear subframe assembly and high risk areas elsewhere.

Shortly after purchase in early October last year I gave it a fairly heavy Fluid film spray with 2 -3 cans, to include into the holes of the boxed frame in the direciton of travel (where I figured spray could get inside.)
I know fluid film is supposed to be renewed eveyr 6 months, though some say it can last up to a year if u dont drive thru too many rainstorms.

Despite all the time that has passed, I imagine a lot of the FF I sprayed into the inside of boxed frame is still in there, and I would say some surfaces components still look a bit oily from the FF application.

The previous application of FF changes things, any remaining trace will hinder any other product other than oily ones like the one from eg blaster (same as FF with the addition of Vaseline) from adhering. You could wash the under body and coat suspension parts with the presto and wait till next summer to clean it properly and apply superior products that are long lasting or use FF again and forget it and use the presto in places like under the hood that are painted or have cavities like the inside front of the hood. IMO using oily products is just asking for trouble later unless you want to recoat it on a regular basis.

 

[WeyounDS9]

The previous application of FF changes things, any remaining trace will hinder any other product other than oily ones like the one from eg blaster (same as FF with the addition of Vaseline) from adhering. You could wash the under body and coat suspension parts with the presto and wait till next summer to clean it properly and apply superior products that are long lasting or use FF again and forget it and use the presto in places like under the hood that are painted or have cavities like the inside front of the hood. IMO using oily products is just asking for trouble later unless you want to recoat it on a regular basis.

BUt isnt this preston multi wax pretty much the same thing?
An oily substance that (according to the bottle) creeps into locations. I told them at the store about 3 times I specifically I do not wish a paint style spray.

I was looking for FF or a FF equivalent due to its easry application and am willing to get under the car right before every winter for it.

 

[Trav]

No they are as different as night and day. Presto multi wax is a wax based formula and will not stick to an oily surface. FF is lanolin grease based.
Multi wax does creep but only as long as the solvents are "wet" during application then it dries to a firm wax film. FF on the other hand does not firm up to a wax film.

presto Multi Wax is a transparent anticorrosive agent based on wax for the long-term protection of surfaces and cavities of car, motorcycle and machines of all kinds.
The product has an excellent damp repelling and penetrating effect. Leaves after drying a firmly adhering, bright protective film. Adheres to bare or painted surfaces. Ideal as a long-term protection for abandoned vehicles or even for garden equipment.

You could spray the whole underbody and inside panels with this woolwax without doing any removal of previous FF product. It has a lot more lanolin grease than FF and hangs in there longer.

https://www.woolwaxusa.com/

 

[WeyounDS9]

No they are as different as night and day. Presto multi wax is a wax based formula and will not stick to an oily surface. FF is lanolin grease based.
Multi wax does creep but only as long as the solvents are "wet" during application then it dries to a firm wax film. FF on the other hand does not firm up to a wax film.


You could spray the whole underbody and inside panels with this woolwax without doing any removal of previous FF product. It has a lot more lanolin grease than FF and hangs in there longer.

https://www.woolwaxusa.com/

Thank you for the help.
I see you are in germany, as am I, for a contract.
Can you recommend a product freely available in germany?