JHZR2
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Batteries are a big problem with that, which is my point. Trading a Middle East mess for a pacific mess.
What would be an acceptable charge time at a fast charger for you?
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100%, but if we want to play the what-if, what if I needed to go on an emergent trip after work? I'd like to know I could fast charge it properly without "waiting for hours" like the news alleges, lol! So I tested it. it looks like 10*f weather added about 5-8 minutes.
I wasn't sure who uploaded the video. But certainly anyone who plans on doing stuff like this should do the research and be prepared.
I heard that one of the big problems with the Chicago debacle was that the drivers either didn't navigate to the Superchargers or they were waiting so long that any previous preconditioning heat was gone. Obviously that could be alleviated with more available charging so that a wait is less likely. I've only waited once. That's certainly an interesting case, and it might be difficult to know what future availability will be.
I'd be interested in how it might be possible to maintain preconditioning or estimate when to restart it manually if needed.
twouvakind
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I don't know about other posters but I just can't wrap my head around ticking off minutes at a charging station. Not enough hours in the day to begin with, just give me the pump filler nozzle.
At this stage of life, I won't find myself in an EV.
At this stage of life, I won't find myself in an EV.
Not following you - I don't have a battery.
Or are you saying that any battery is a pacific problem/mess?
As an owner I can tell you 1st hand EVs are not for everyone. If you can charge at home and don't need it for frequent 200+ mile a day trips, then it might make sense.
If I couldn't charge at home I would not own an EV. I know a few people who are OK with that, but they are a very small part of the ownership total.
About 80% of EV charging is done at home where it's plug in and let it do its thing overnight. There are some people who opt to charge at work, especially since many workplaces provide it for free. Public charging is really to fill in the gaps, such as those who can't find a setup at work or where it's difficult to set up at home and those on road trips. There are a few here who noted it was difficult to get a 240V circuit installed and they just used a 110-120V Level 1 setup and it was OK if their daily mileage was low enough.
To present the full time picture here would be to add the time it takes to drive to costco - then wait to pump - then pump - then drive home.
Costco almost always has a wait, but aside from you not one bitogger has ever gone or waited there. (lol)
Not speaking of you here, but so many seem to magically forget about how much time they really spend going to , being at, and coming from gas stations as though we all didnt grow up doing this either weekly or multiple times a week. We all know what to takes so pretending this isnt part of ice ownership is hilarious.
In these discussions the gas station with the cheapest gas in town is located at the end of the driveway so only pump time counts and every fuel stop is made enroute with zero detour, not one dedicated fuel trip is ever made on a weekend or during the week, and the bathroom is never once used on a road - every stop is like nascar, no one even gets out of the car.
Same with road trips - somehow they all magically start with a full tank without adding the time it takes to do that, and then when they return the car somehow starts the next week without a post trip fill up.
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Nothing.
This is nearly impossible to grasp by some.
For some it's like solving the Reimann hypothesis.
JHZR2
Staff member
If you follow the supply chains for batteries for EVs, even if the battery is formed/made here, it’s all a huge reliance on the pacific rim. Any Li-ion battery…
Yep. Let's work on that.
ahh got it, yeah mostly - we can and will fix that though.
We cannot fix the other problem.
Most of us don't drive on road trips every day, so it's about 15 seconds "at the pump" daily.
I'm invested in South/Central America and lithium. Also, AUS provides a lot of it, as well.
This is not stock advice, but my holdings included/include Atlas as well as Sigma Lithium.
https://www.atlas-lithium.com/
https://sigmalithiumresources.com/
Companies like these are as ethical as any industry.
SK Industries, who made the battery in my EV6 GT, sources their lithium from AUS.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...with-australias-lake-resources-301647038.html
https://eng.sk.com/news/sk-on-signs...gship,produce lithium from spodumene mineral.
I do not support China, nor do I buy kit from China. That includes my car. I tried it once with Volvo, and sorely regretted it.
This. EV is for home charging. Otherwise it makes no sense. If I were homeless, I would buy an X3M Comp or similar.
Lots of people forego a home because corporate moves them around a lot and will cover cars and nice apartments.
It was a joke. 
