What makes Toyota oil better?

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Yeah, and why do you think people switch brands? Why do you think 98% of the Purolator fans (me included) stopped using them? And why do you think the Ultra is now the popular high efficiency, long OCI filter? Oh, I forgot ... you don't read the oil filter forums. Oh well, stay a mushtoom man.
Marketing and kickbacks that’s why. Any idiot can say this filter and this oil is God’s gift to cars engines but only a fool like you would fall for that marketing hype. End of discussion.

Guess specs and SAE/ISO tests mean nothing to the uniformed. LOL

 

[PimTac]

To the OP,

The reason Toyota oil additives are blended specifically for Toyota engines is the moly content. The Japanese love moly and they put large amounts in their oil. The Mazda Moly oil made by Idemitsu has over 800ppm of moly. Mitsubishi oil doesn't have that much moly but it's still up there. These oils are made by Idemitsu and JX Nippon. The Mobil made TGMO may not have that amount of moly in it. Since oil contracts vary by region, the additive package will also vary. For Mazda Europe their oil is made by Total.

Some people will continue with these oils thinking they are better but all major brands of oil use different compositions to achieve the same results. Valvoline has no moly or boron yet produces excellent analysis reports that we have seen here.

So in the end no oil is best. Brand bias is strong with oil just as it is with vehicles.

 

[Diesel16]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Never been banned before as this is my one and only account in the forums. I could give two [censored] about the brand name on a filter. Everyone knows fram filters are constructed like [censored]. They are ridiculously thin and collapse and the end caps are made of cardboard accept on the ultra. Sorry if I [censored] in your frameeos man. I find it funny that years ago everyone loved purolater. Then they jumped on the ac delco wagon. Then motorcraft. Now fram. Just like with oil. It use to be maxlife. Then m1. Then quaker state and now pennzoil.

Yeah, and why do you think people switch brands? Why do you think 98% of the Purolator fans (me included) stopped using them? And why do you think the Ultra is now the popular high efficiency, long OCI filter? Oh, I forgot ... you don't read the oil filter forums. Oh well, stay a mushtoom man.


Marketing and kickbacks that’s why. Any idiot can say this filter and this oil is God’s gift to cars engines but only a fool like you would fall for that marketing hype. End of discussion.

Guess specs and SAE/ISO tests mean nothing to the uniformed. LOL


Yep or to the people who don’t fall for marketing [censored] but you wouldn’t understand that framboy

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Guess specs and SAE/ISO tests mean nothing to the uniformed. LOL

Yep or to the people who don’t fall for marketing [censored] but you wouldn’t understand that framboy

Just gotta be smart enough to filter the marketing talk with actual test data, specs, etc to know what's going on - that goes for filters, oil, etc.

Seems the only thing you know how to do is call people names in every reply. I'm sure everyone takes you "seriously".

 

[SilverFusion2010]

You were right, I put diesel on ignore

 

[ernied]

Stop this [censored].i read these fourms to learn and enjoy it put up another subject so people can go to that to argue.

 

[Diesel16]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Guess specs and SAE/ISO tests mean nothing to the uniformed. LOL

Yep or to the people who don’t fall for marketing [censored] but you wouldn’t understand that framboy

Just gotta be smart enough to filter the marketing talk with actual test data, specs, etc to know what's going on - that goes for filters, oil, etc.

Seems the only thing you know how to do is call people names in every reply. I'm sure everyone takes you "seriously".


Wasn’t calling everyone names in every reply internet keyboard warrior. But hey your the one who attacked me first with your fram [censored]. It is what it is. You show your stupidity so it’s ok. Now back to the op subject. Toyota oil

 

[Diesel16]

Thats ok cause I put your lame self on the ignore list to champ. Tootles

 

[Diesel16]

Originally Posted By: ernied
Stop this [censored].i read these fourms to learn and enjoy it put up another subject so people can go to that to argue.
hey it wouldn’t have been a issue but mister know it all attacked me with his fram [censored] so I defended myself. I didn’t come to the forums to be bullied by internet keyboard warriors and weekend mechanics. I came to the forums to learn from others but it seems that’s not possible with Peale like ZeeOSix and SilverFusion

 

[Virtus_Probi]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
You sure it's an excretion from that part of the elves?
I'm thinking it might have come from their opposite side.
LOL!


Hey, I'm just going by what I was told! And don't forget the octonuclear moly

I'll see your octomoly and raise you dodecamoly!!

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Yep or to the people who don’t fall for marketing [censored] but you wouldn’t understand that framboy

So you've been around here before, correct? This isn't your first run at BITOG is it?

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Hope that fram doesn’t cause you a catastrophic engine failure. Seen that happen a lot in the last 5 years.

No, you haven't.

You and planeman223 should get together, I'm sure you'd have a lot to discuss. Oh wait, planeman223 was deleted from the user list. Never mind.

 

[JustN89]

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Wasn’t calling everyone names in every reply internet keyboard warrior. But hey your the one who attacked me first with your fram [censored]. It is what it is. You show your stupidity so it’s ok. Now back to the op subject. Toyota oil


To be fair, you're the one who took this off topic with a claim (well, insinuation) based solely upon conjecture that a Supertech filter was better than a Fram Ultra filter. Your comment below was the first one to mention Fram Ultra in this discussion.

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
This Toyota motor oil being hyped to heck on bitog is just like pennzoil and fram being hyped to all heck as well. I can’t believe people actually thing fram is a good filter. Pennzoil might be good oil now a days but it’s not the best and I’d rather use a cheap super tech filter from Walmart then any fram filter period.

 

[RooflessVW]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Hope that fram doesn’t cause you a catastrophic engine failure. Seen that happen a lot in the last 5 years.

No, you haven't.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Lmao!!!!!!!!! Sorry but I can’t trust someone who says fram makes the best filters. No offense but I know they are garbage. Seen to many vehicles with engine damage because of them. But hey use whatever floats your boat bud. Fram being the best filter out there. Lol. Man I’ve heard it all now. Smh

I don't use Fram oil filters, but you do realize you're going to be called on this. You've seen too many vehicles with engine damage because of them? If you can prove this, Fram should be writing a big cheque then, right?

On topic, with respect to TGMO, Toyota, and a few other automakers, I suggest would be better off having a partnership with a product that can be bought through normal channels. Chrysler does it with Shell. Nissan/Infiniti Canada does it with Mobil, though worldwide, Renault Group and Castrol are looking to arrange things.

 

[Diesel16]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Hope that fram doesn’t cause you a catastrophic engine failure. Seen that happen a lot in the last 5 years.

No, you haven't.

You and planeman223 should get together, I'm sure you'd have a lot to discuss. Oh wait, planeman223 was deleted from the user list. Never mind.


Actually I have. I am the top mechanic at a garage and have seen more motor issues from fram filters then any other in this is in the last 10 years so believe what you want to believe but I wouldn’t put a fram on a lawn mower

 

[Diesel16]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Yep or to the people who don’t fall for marketing [censored] but you wouldn’t understand that framboy

So you've been around here before, correct? This isn't your first run at BITOG is it?


No. Like I said before this is my one and only account I’ve ever had on here. Idk where you get that I’ve been here before.

 

[Diesel16]

Originally Posted By: JustN89
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Wasn’t calling everyone names in every reply internet keyboard warrior. But hey your the one who attacked me first with your fram [censored]. It is what it is. You show your stupidity so it’s ok. Now back to the op subject. Toyota oil


To be fair, you're the one who took this off topic with a claim (well, insinuation) based solely upon conjecture that a Supertech filter was better than a Fram Ultra filter. Your comment below was the first one to mention Fram Ultra in this discussion.

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
This Toyota motor oil being hyped to heck on bitog is just like pennzoil and fram being hyped to all heck as well. I can’t believe people actually thing fram is a good filter. Pennzoil might be good oil now a days but it’s not the best and I’d rather use a cheap super tech filter from Walmart then any fram filter period.


And? Your point is? I said I would use a cheap super tech before I use a fram. Yes I said that. Why? Cause fram is junk and that’s the plain hard truth

 

[PimTac]

What do you think about Redline oil?

 

[Diesel16]

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Hope that fram doesn’t cause you a catastrophic engine failure. Seen that happen a lot in the last 5 years.

No, you haven't.

Wrong. And yes I have seen it happen to too many cars from fram filters.