What makes Toyota oil better?

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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Lmao!!!!!!!!! Sorry but I can’t trust someone who says fram makes the best filters. No offense but I know they are garbage. Seen to many vehicles with engine damage because of them. But hey use whatever floats your boat bud. Fram being the best filter out there. Lol. Man I’ve heard it all now. Smh

I don't use Fram oil filters, but you do realize you're going to be called on this. You've seen too many vehicles with engine damage because of them? If you can prove this, Fram should be writing a big cheque then, right?

On topic, with respect to TGMO, Toyota, and a few other automakers, I suggest would be better off having a partnership with a product that can be bought through normal channels. Chrysler does it with Shell. Nissan/Infiniti Canada does it with Mobil, though worldwide, Renault Group and Castrol are looking to arrange things.


No because fram will say the engine had a issue before hand to cover their butt. Trust me they won’t stand behind their garbage product.
 
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
No because fram will say the engine had a issue before hand to cover their butt. Trust me they won’t stand behind their garbage product.

Yet you've never once stated the issue or provided any proof. You have, however, asked others for proof and when they pointed you to the part of the forum where the facts are, you shrugged it off and said that you don't need to read about Fram, you already "know" they are garbage.
 
I would suggest to stop feeding it. It only wants to argue, not to have any reasonable discussion.

It will be gone soon. 3........2.......1
 
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Wrong. And yes I have seen it happen to too many cars from fram filters.

No you haven't. It's not nice to make stuff up you know.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would suggest to stop feeding it. It only wants to argue, not to have any reasonable discussion.

It will be gone soon. 3........2.......1


Lol. Nah and to be honest I don’t give a flying [censored] if I get banned cause you all are just a bunch of yards that think you know it all and your [censored] don’t stink. Maybe if you actually spun wrenches like I do for a living you would know what’s junk and what’s not but you fall for all the marketing [censored] this stupid forum promotes so I get it but maybe you should pull your head out of fram and pennzoil [censored] and learn a thing or two. Can’t fix stupid though
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Wrong. And yes I have seen it happen to too many cars from fram filters.

No you haven't. It's not nice to make stuff up you know.


Yes I have and I ain’t making [censored] up. I see your a fram fanboy since you defend them none stop. Lol
 
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Lol. Nah and to be honest I don’t give a flying [censored] if I get banned cause you all are just a bunch of yards that think you know it all and your [censored] don’t stink. Maybe if you actually spun wrenches like I do for a living you would know what’s junk and what’s not but you fall for all the marketing [censored] this stupid forum promotes so I get it but maybe you should pull your head out of fram and pennzoil [censored] and learn a thing or two. Can’t fix stupid though

Yeah, here we go. "Banned again" you mean, right?

This is how it happens. Start off with baseless and inflammatory accusations, progress into progressively more rude personal attacks, and then banned again. Until the next screen name of course. Then we repeat the process.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would suggest to stop feeding it. It only wants to argue, not to have any reasonable discussion.

It will be gone soon. 3........2.......1


That’s funny cause you guys are the ones arguing with me claiming I’m making [censored] up when I’m not. You don’t wanna believe your fram orange can of death is a pos filter and that’s fine. Use what you wanna use and move along. Now back on topic for the 1 millionth time. Toyota oil
 
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would suggest to stop feeding it. It only wants to argue, not to have any reasonable discussion.

It will be gone soon. 3........2.......1


That’s funny cause you guys are the ones arguing with me claiming I’m making [censored] up when I’m not. You don’t wanna believe your fram orange can of death is a pos filter and that’s fine. Use what you wanna use and move along. Now back on topic for the 1 millionth time. Toyota oil

And there it is. Finally, we have admission that this is nothing but opinion based on anecdotal stories from many years ago. No facts, just outdated opinion.
 
Originally Posted By: JustN89
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would suggest to stop feeding it. It only wants to argue, not to have any reasonable discussion.

It will be gone soon. 3........2.......1


That’s funny cause you guys are the ones arguing with me claiming I’m making [censored] up when I’m not. You don’t wanna believe your fram orange can of death is a pos filter and that’s fine. Use what you wanna use and move along. Now back on topic for the 1 millionth time. Toyota oil

And there it is. Finally, we have admission that this is nothing but opinion based on anecdotal stories from many years ago. No facts, just outdated opinion.


Plenty of facts sir. And not just the old frams caused this but the new ones as well. Believe what you want though princess
 
That’s funny. I could care less what everyone on this forum thinks or what your problems are. Y’all are just a bunch of fram fanboys and keyboard warriors.
 
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Hmmmm. Good question. What do you think about Mobil 1?

Definition of trolling.
 
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
No because fram will say the engine had a issue before hand to cover their butt. Trust me they won’t stand behind their garbage product.

But if you have evidence, that should be better than Fram simply dismissing a claim.
 
How did we go from Toyota oil to Fram filters? Seems like two different topics to me. Below is your first post in this thread. Such an oddball post from you.

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
This Toyota motor oil being hyped to heck on bitog is just like pennzoil and fram being hyped to all heck as well. I can’t believe people actually thing fram is a good filter. Pennzoil might be good oil now a days but it’s not the best and I’d rather use a cheap super tech filter from Walmart then any fram filter period.


And now on page 7 you want to talk about Toyota oil:

Originally Posted By: Diesel16
That’s funny cause you guys are the ones arguing with me claiming I’m making [censored] up when I’m not. You don’t wanna believe your fram orange can of death is a pos filter and that’s fine. Use what you wanna use and move along. Now back on topic for the 1 millionth time. Toyota oil


Gearheadtool and all his other aliases would do the same thing, talk about several unrelated topics at once. Kind of a scatter brain.
 
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Gearheadtool and all his other aliases would do the same thing, talk about several unrelated topics at once. Kind of a scatter brain.

Right, but he didn't spout the silly anti-Fram stuff or get belligerent, did he? Maybe I forgot.

So many repeat trolls and so many screen names that I get them confused.
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Right, but he didn't spout the silly anti-Fram stuff or get belligerent, did he? Maybe I forgot.

So many repeat trolls and so many screen names that I get them confused.


Good point, and I didn't remember anti-Fram posts either, just his weird behavior. I did a quick search and one post came up. He could be nice at times then fly off the handle soon after esp after being confronted. The worst of it was the rumors of killing a puppy.

Originally Posted By: GearheadTool
Well... I always DO hear Frams SUCK...

I actually would buy "anything but," including Supertech, just because of how much I have heard about the "Orange Can of Death."

I also have no direct knowledge, nor experience.


Originally Posted By: GearheadTool
Fram has High Mileage (gold can,) Orange Can of [censored], and another one, I think it is ToughGuard (Grey and black can. A serious looking filter. Unsure how good it is, though.)

High Mileage: HMxxxx
Normal: FRxxxx
The other one: TGxxxx

WM also sells other filters, but I have been known to buy Supertech filters.. and they have always worked well.

The Orange cans are supposed to suck, and suck badly. Is there anything to that? I have been laissez-fare there

Originally Posted By: jegs
Here is an 8 page thread on that very subject. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2901649&page=1


Well. consider this the US version.
 
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Originally Posted By: Diesel16

I do comprehend champ and I think the only reason why fram and pennzoil is pushed so hard on the forums is cause people get kickbacks from it. And no I don’t need to go hand out and wack off to fram filters in the oil filter forum like you do bud. I’m not going off of what fram was 20 years ago either chief. I’m going off of what fram is and will always be and that’s a cheap pos filter. Your not gonna convince me otherwise. I don’t care how far you have your head up fram’s a**. They are garbage, always have been and always will be. So we can agree to disagree. You think they are superior and I along with a buttload of people know they are [censored]. So to each their own. Use what tickles your fancy. Tootles


Pope Francis posts on BITOG???
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Gearheadtool and all his other aliases would do the same thing, talk about several unrelated topics at once. Kind of a scatter brain.

Right, but he didn't spout the silly anti-Fram stuff or get belligerent, did he? Maybe I forgot.

So many repeat trolls and so many screen names that I get them confused.


Too crass to be GHT for sure, definitely not his posting style.
 
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