I used to use only Fram oil filters years ago, because I believed the advertising. This was long before the internet and forums became so accessible. I first began to doubt Fram's quality when a filter I had removed felt and sounded "clunky". I felt sure that the element had come loose inside, but figured it was just a fluke and continued to use them on all of our vehicles. However, after that first time, I looked for this problem specifically on subsequent oil changes and soon found several more like this on different vehicles with different part number Fram filters. Keep in mind, we never extended our OCI back in those days and were not using synthetic oils (read, low miles on these filters). At that point I decided to use other filter brands and since then have never spun off another "clunky" filter from one of our vehicles. I have changed oil on a friend's vehicle and have found the element loose inside a Fram, even recently. I can't say for sure that these Frams had stopped filtering oil, but I'm not taking any chances personally. I wish now I had cut one of these open to confirm my suspicions. Anyone else have a similar experience?