What is Going on with PQIA?

[Boomer]

I just checked their site and the last oil analysis that they published was in 2023. Do they still exist? If so, are they still functioning or have they just stopped doing anything. I always checked their analyses on oils and looked for the bad actors so I could tell my non-BITOG friends to not use to use those brands.

If anyone has information, I would like to hear it. I have tried to contact them with zero response.

 

[Zee09]

I thought it went belly up back then???

 

[fantastic]

I just checked their site and the last oil analysis that they published was in 2023. Do they still exist? If so, are they still functioning or have they just stopped doing anything. I always checked their analyses on oils and looked for the bad actors so I could tell my non-BITOG friends to not use to use those brands.

If anyone has information, I would like to hear it. I have tried to contact them with zero response.

Could be just that specifications don't change all the time so they test every so many years when API changes? Just a thought. Send em an email?

 

[Bud_One]

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Thread 'Is the Petroleum Quality Institute of America (PQIA) organization defunct?'

Jan 30, 2024

I go to the PQIA site sometimes to look at the additive packages for different oils (www.pqia.org). I noticed that the last new oil analysis posted was back in March 2023, which is almost a year ago. If you go through the VOA reports for different oil weights, you will notice that most are out of date by several years.

A simple site updating delay would not last for almost a year. I would think there would be new oil analyses posted every 2-3 weeks or so.
Something is not right. Lots of sponsors, so money should not be an issue.

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[Boomer]

So it seems nobody knows what has happened. Shame that PQIA seems to have become defunct as the work they did was important and valuable.

 

[nascarnation]

It's odd that with all the industry connections here on BITOG nobody has any news.

 

[wemay]

I've had questions about this as well.

 

[Overfill]

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[4wd]

Never paid them any attention unless linked here by someone

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

So it seems nobody knows what has happened. Shame that PQIA seems to have become defunct as the work they did was important and valuable.

Only really if you’re buying off-brand oils all the time. I don’t think there was ever a single quality alert for something made by XOM, Amsoil, RDS, Phillips 66, or major copackers.

Basically, if all you ever did was buy oil from Walmart shelves, PQIA never amounted to anything useful. And if all you bought were gas station brands or dollar stores, then all bets are off and not even PQIA would save your engine. Caveat emptor…

 

[Foxtrot08]

They’re still around. Their focus has changed. It’s too hard to play whack-a-mole finding whoever makes “Am best oil UsA!” With zero information on who actually made it.

They’re focused on distributors and blenders. They still do annual audits for distributors. So Tom comes to one of my facilities every year, at least one.

It’s a lot easier to enforce on distributors cheating. As you can get other allies involved without getting the government involved. Whether it’s a major, or just blenders cutting them off, or if they do their own blending, additive companies cutting them off. You can sort of black list them pretty quickly.

But trying to chase down a no name R us bottle with a fake company logo on it, is next to impossible. And, that has really gone away once the retailers started getting held responsible. What was it, dollar general or something? Got sued.

 

[DirectRejection]

Long live City Star motor oil.
Hahaha.

 

[paulri]

I remember one time when Valvine NextGen came out, one of the specs (forget which one) was off the charts & was flagged. That was about it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171009005940/https://www.pqiamerica.com/Nov2013/Valvolinenextgen.htm

Only really if you’re buying off-brand oils all the time. I don’t think there was ever a single quality alert for something made by XOM, Amsoil, RDS, Phillips 66, or major copackers.

Basically, if all you ever did was buy oil from Walmart shelves, PQIA never amounted to anything useful. And if all you bought were gas station brands or dollar stores, then all bets are off and not even PQIA would save your engine. Caveat emptor…

 

[53' Stude]

I remember one time when Valvine NextGen came out, one of the specs (forget which one) was off the charts & was flagged. That was about it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171009005940/https://www.pqiamerica.com/Nov2013/Valvolinenextgen.htm

That was “Valvoline” nextgen Maxlife with a crazy high NOACK %