What holding strength is lost when removing and reinstalling wood bolts?

[GON]

Having to paint a hallway and the door to the utility room is solid wood and on a track.

Trying to figure out if I should remove and reinstall the wood bolts, or leave everything in place and blue tape around the hardware.

Very easy for the bolts to be removed with Milwaukee electric tools. Concern is will the bolts hold the same after reinstalling.

Thoughts?

 

[BrendanC]

do the work by hand to not destroy the threads created by the lag bolts.

 

[GON]

do the work by hand to not destroy the threads created by the lag bolts.

Thanks , blue tape it is then.

 

[AZjeff]

Very trendy. How many track doors do you have?

 

[IndyIan]

do the work by hand to not destroy the threads created by the lag bolts.

I agree that I don't think lag bolts loose much strength at all, when removing and reinstalling, if you don't over torque them.

 

[AndyB]

Use a little white wood glue on the threads when putting them back on. Use an impact to run them down snug and finish tightening by hand.

 

[Astro14]

Use a little white wood glue on the threads when putting them back on. Use an impact to run them down snug and finish tightening by hand.

If the previous installer had done this, then removing the bolt would, in fact, greatly reduce their strength because that white glue means that bolt removal would rip out a bunch of the wood fibers.

I don’t glue lag bolts in place. That makes things unrepairable since they are screwed into studs.

My most recent woodworking project used lag screws, stainless steel, because they were going into oak, and the tannins in Oak make it corrosive long term.

 

[zzyzzx]

Use a little white wood glue on the threads when putting them back on. Use an impact to run them down snug and finish tightening by hand.

I would not use an impact if doing it this way.

 

[mrsilv04]

Hint: Next time, cover the track with some aluminum foil out of the kitchen. Lots faster to put on and take off.

 

[GON]

Very trendy. How many track doors do you have?

Two track doors, and one pocket door. I think the architect used these doors for utility purposes, not fashion or trend purposes. It would be very hard with the size of the space to bring a basket of clothes into the utility room with a standard door.

On a supplemental note, I am painting the great room and hallway. Wife wanted to hire a painter, as she thought I didn't have time. Lots of prep work involved. I painted one wall so far. The paint is blue and wife wants white.

The paint contractor came over and I happened to be home. The contractor came in without pen, paper, nothing. Quoted $4500 USD for the room and hall.

The job is definitely a $4500 job. Seems like a lot but the prep work is intensive. I was bothered by no statement of work by the contractor. What is not included, nothing. Wife asked when could they start. Contractor said they were weeks behind because of additional work required for current jobs.

That final comment by the contractor told me I needed to do the painting. The job requires much prep, and I had zero confidence the prep would be done, or the contractor was going to later upcharge to properly prep. So now I am prepping and painting.

 

[tbm5690]

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Those stone insets are interesting...haven't seen that before. Painting yourself is easy, just time-consuming. I enjoy it and find it highly satisfying when I get to pull off all the tape when the job is done and looks great.

 

[GON]

Those stone insets are interesting...haven't seen that before. Painting yourself is easy, just time-consuming. I enjoy it and find it highly satisfying when I get to pull off all the tape when the job is done and looks great.

Thanks. Here is a picture of the stone inserts from a wall I painted last week, and some I still need to paint around.

Having a bit of a challenge going from blue to white. Mandatory two coats minimum. Wife picked out a $89 USD a gallon satin flat from Sherwin Williams, but two coats minimum still required.

My lesson learned on tape is to removethe tape as soon as feasible. Seems the way I paint, the tape sometimes pulls off very small sections of dried paint.

One new benefit and/or challenges of painting in zero humidity is the paint dries lightning quick. A blessing and a curse at the same time

 

[tbm5690]

Thanks. Here is a picture of the stone inserts from a wall I painted last week, and some I still need to paint around.

Having a bit of a challenge going from blue to white. Mandatory two coats minimum. Wife picked out a $89 USD a gallon satin flat from Sherwin Williams, but two coats minimum still required.

Yep, I've had to do 3 coats of SW before depending on color covering and color going on. I hit their 30% sale recently which helps on price. I asked the guy at the counter if they even do the 40% sales anymore, and he said they are one day sales happening maybe a couple of times per year. I remember when 30% was the norm and 40% was frequent just a few years ago, and all that on top of lower posted prices per gallon.

 

[Egg_Head]

$89/gal. paint, is the SW store giving you a military discount?

 

[GON]

$89/gal. paint, is the SW store giving you a military discount?

No, the 30 percent discount is what they offered. The 30 percent sale was over, but the manageable me a hand written note that I qualify for the 30 percent off after the sale. I think I new 30 percent off sals started yesterday.

I wonder what painting contractors pay?

Lowe's is selling a version on Sherwin Williams. One has to wonder if the qualities that much less than the high end store version. Lowe's is $35 USD less a gallon.

Purchased two cans of paint late Thursday afternoon. The counter person put in the tint, but never mixed/ shook the cans. I caught the error quickly and returned to the store. What bothered me was how did the cans get the little sample of paint on the outside without being mixed? Maybe since paint was white, the counter person used the base as the outside paint sample.

Here is the message I pulled from the Little cove and hallway painting yesterday morning.

 

[Hall]

Thanks , blue tape it is then.

Are you spray-painting ? Seems like it the way you're masking things off.

 

[GON]

Are you spray-painting ? Seems like it the way you're masking things off.

No, I am not the greatest painter and had a lot to paint. Over the years I have found with my style of interior painting; masking/taping/ preparing surely beats cleaning dried paint after the job is done. Also promotes straight lines.

 

[SHOZ]

A little antifreeze squirted in the holes will soak into the wood and swell it a little. Also a good preservative.

It's been so dry here lately all my big hammers heads are getting loose. So I'm getting a bucket to soak them in.

 

[97prizm]

Having to paint a hallway and the door to the utility room is solid wood and on a track.

Trying to figure out if I should remove and reinstall the wood bolts, or leave everything in place and blue tape around the hardware.

Very easy for the bolts to be removed with Milwaukee electric tools. Concern is will the bolts hold the same after reinstalling.

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My suggestion after a year and a half of maintenance says use frog tape to tape off the track. Every time you remove and install something there's a possibility of it not going back together or as tight as it previously did.