What happened to the bargain hot rods?
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Nick1994
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I really doubt you can mod an ‘87 305 that would make it quicker than a new V6 Camaro.
nowadays the cheapest hot rods is to LS swap a 80,s Gbody
Or buy a Bolt for $12K and have the same 0-60 haha.
Or the new M3P which is a 10 second car; 2.9 0-60.
Here are the performance numbers for the Grand National, so let’s say a “ hot rod” can do 0-60 in 5.0 seconds. The Ford Mustang 2.3 eco boost does it in 4.5 seconds. Behold your bargain hot rod.
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It also sounds like electronics are making it difficult. Not sure if all of the new generation of Mustang is affected but and article that I stumbled upon mentioned that the new 800hp gtd mustang uses a multi-authentication encryption which makes it sound like you couldn't swap a manual transmission into it if you wanted to as it's looking for certain things like dct and so on.
Or a mondter miata with the V8. Unfortunately the company dropped the V8 swap because they said it was becoming a gray line with emissions regulations and "tampering ".
Wrong again. Requires E85 fuel, 15% gasoline and 85% ethanol to make that power.
This thread is about bargain hot rods, not factory racers.
The Demon is a factory racer; engineered for drag racing. Lousy street car. Do they even still make them? Have you ever seen one?
Oh yeah, the Plaid is faster and cheaper. The Plaid is able to get a great start, launching away and leaving the Demon in the dust.
Modified Plaids have run 8.7 in the quarter, basically shredding 500 pounds of weight.
Better luck next time. There is no car that offers the Ludicrous' level of performance anywhere near the money.
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Patman
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I remember in the late 80s a lot of the big high volume Ford dealers were advertising bare bones 5.0 Mustang LX coupes for around $12,000. Things sure have changed a lot since then! I know I can't really consider my Corvette a bargain basement performance car, but when I compare it to other high performance cars it really was a bargain. I paid $63,000 Canadian for it new, and I factory ordered it and optioned it in a way that made it considerably cheaper than what most dealers had on their lots. I just wanted the most basic 1LT trim to keep the price and the weight down compared to other C7s.
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Just for your entertainment a plaid being spanked by a Demon. I can cherry pick the info too, so better luck next time. LOL
Here it is called E85 and sold at some gas stations, the point is it can be charged up in 5 min or less. That tesla you recommend is no cheap hot rod, it doesnt even look the part. The Demon is a street legal car, the cars you talk about have all been modified in some way also and yes the dealer down the street had a Demon.
Just for your entertainment a plaid being spanked by a Demon. I can cherry pick the info too, so better luck next time. LOL
Sign me up. I miss mine dearly.
(My '78 Malibu I mean. It was gone before the LS was even a thing.)
Part of the fun of a high performance car is the engine noise.
Wrong again. The Demon was discontinued after 2023. Weren't they like $110K or more? Hardly a budget performance car. By the way, to get the Demon's ultra low times requires a pro driver; it is a race car. How many people even know what a trans brake is, much less how to drive one. Road and Track driver got far slower times, comparable the new M3P.
To get anywhere the Demon's best times you need a track and burnouts. Hope you don't spin... Plus takes the seats out. Otherwise it gets killed by the Plaid.
My Tesla gets charged in the garage overnight for next to nothing. I hear some people can't stand gassing up so much that they send their wives to do it. The Demon gets like 13 mpg and has a range of about 240 miles. Our 2018 Model 3 beats that by a bunch.
The 170 is probably the fastest accelerating gas car ever offered in America. It's a factory race car.
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The Demon uses 100 - 105 octane for knock resistance; it is much cheaper than race gas, and easier to find.
No doubt the Demon 170 is very very fast. You could order one without seats, at least before Dodge stopped making them.
Here's one against the Lucid Sapphire. The Sapphire even gives the Demon a head start in race #2.
On a better day with a better driver the Demon would give the Lucid a better race.
No doubt the Demon 170 is very very fast. You could order one without seats, at least before Dodge stopped making them.
Here's one against the Lucid Sapphire. The Sapphire even gives the Demon a head start in race #2.
On a better day with a better driver the Demon would give the Lucid a better race.
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Exactly. Selling an inexpensive hot rod is difficult when many family sedans go 0-60 in under 6 sec, go at least 140 mph based on what I see on I-280, and when they all have butt warmers and some have a heartbeat kidnapping sensor (Volvo). Stripped performance will cost you extra because of low demand.
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Something to be said for instant torque and electric motors. I am not averse to electric cars except for range issues. I wouldn't buy a Tesla because I dislike Elon Musk. All the financial gurus on Fox Business and Bloomberg are anticipating a huge amount of discounting in the future for Teslas as they have a huge backlog sitting around. Seems the Chinese are building a better mousetrap for a quarter of the price and available everywhere except N. America.
Whats with this wrong again crap? I said..
AFAIK has and had are two different things. The point is simple you can modify almost any car to be faster on the drag strip. This "oh it was built for the drag strip" is crap, it could be legally bought and on the road right out of the box. Enough already, you are getting carried away with this Tesla and ev stuff. When the Demon was introduced it was the same price or less than a plaid before elmo dropped the price.
I meant you cannot buy a new one. The Demon 170 has been discontinued. They don't make them anymore. Of course there are used or perhaps even unsold prior year cars. Apologies for the misunderstanding; my mistake. I should have been more clear.
The Demon was a factory built street legal race car. Does a street car need a trans lock? Can you generally order a car without a passenger seat or back seat?
Dodge built the Demon to be an incredible factory performance car and they succeeded.
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