The root cause is not addressed in the video, probably still too early to know at the time of video release.
What goes on during plug in hybrid garage fire.
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Have there been any studies yet that show the total ecological and atmospheric damage done as a result of thousands of these thermal runaway lithium battery fires possibly daily on a global basis?
If you thought CO2 and greenhouse gasses weer bad for the climate......hold my beer.
If you thought CO2 and greenhouse gasses weer bad for the climate......hold my beer.
Astro, didn't they make fire suppression in the cargo compartment mandatory after the Valuejet crash?
It's Centennial....so, no. They'll consider this fake news from conspiracy theorists and forget it faster than they forgot 2020.
That said, shtuff happens and anything with energy potential can burn.
Honestly I'm waiting for certain municipalities to implement building codes that require an ultra-fire resistant garage. Don't worry, the permit fee will only be $500 per sq ft and it will only increase average construction cost by $40k. No big deal.
I don’t recall. But ETOPS airplanes, like the one I was flying, are certified to a different standard of suppression.
Clear from the video it was the the car that started the fire - it was the only thing burning at the start of the video.
So I get your point - did the engine start on fire or did the LI battery go in thermal runaway first. Does it matter? Honestly, if the car itself starts on fire its going to light up that battery if your car has a battery. So yes ICE cars catch fire - but not like that.
That is a really good question. It would be interesting to know if EV ownership would increase fire insurance premiums, or cancel it all together. If owning the wrong breed of dog can get your homeowners insurance cancelled in some areas, I would think this would qualify as well by increasing risk.... Be it perceived or otherwise.
I believe it was Chevrolet some time back, that came out with a consumer bulletin of sorts, that told people to charge their EV's outside, away from flammable structures. Not much for building consumer confidence, to say the least.
What is the actual frequency of automobile EV fires?
There are only that many fires in your head. Oh you wrote "possibly". OK. I see. Again, why did we halt nuclear power plants?
It matters factually and perceptually. Even in this very thread. If people want a decent path in the correct direction on anything, why base that on falsity?
Hard to say in the video, engine is burning.............
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Had the same experience while removing an old phone battery, that was glued to the case a little too well.
It was a very exciting run from the kitchen table to the back door.
The thermal imaging definitely made the vehicle look like the center of things. 
The house is burning also.
I could put 3 barrels of gasoline permanently in my truck and park it in my tuck under garage every day. Gasoline does not catch on fire by itself - ever. Pretty sure people would still tell me I am crazy if I did that.
Great point. Gas doesn't start burning spontaneously. Yet more garages burn down with gasoline than Li batteries.The house is burning also.
I could put 3 barrels of gasoline permanently in my truck and park it in my tuck under garage every day. Gasoline does not catch on fire by itself - ever. Pretty sure people would still tell me I am crazy if I did that.
Likely. but how many more garages have gasoline in them? Data is worthless until normalized.
Yes statistically fewer EV's catch fire than ICE vehicles. Of course statistically EV's are much, much newer on average. I have yet to find a source that normalizes this by year. Also statistically most ICE vehicle catch fire while being driven. I don't have an stats on EV's like that - so I cannot comment.
At the end of the day I keep my 25 gallons of generator gas outside the tuck under garage. I don't store propane there, or thousands of rounds of ammo there either. I know plenty of people that do all that. Of course Gasoline, propane and ammo also do not start fire on their own, but a LI battery will via thermal runaway.
If you want to park a bomb in your garage feel free.
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you factual up until the endLikely. but how many more garages have gasoline in them? Data is worthless until normalized.
Yes statistically fewer EV's catch fire than ICE vehicles. Of course statistically EV's are much, much newer on average. I have yet to find a source that normalizes this by year. Also statistically most ICE vehicle catch fire while being driven. I don't have an stats on EV's like that - so I cannot comment.
At the end of the day I keep my 25 gallons of generator gas outside the tuck under garage. I don't store propane there, or thousands of rounds of ammo there either. I know plenty of people that do all that. Of course Gasoline, propane and ammo also do not start fire on their own, but a LI battery will via thermal runaway.
If you want to park a bomb in your garage feel free.
On their own? No.
So your saying thermal runaway does not exist?
Of course it exists but you are saying it is spontaneously occurring! “On their own”
A LI battery can catch fire all by itself caused by manufacturing defect in the insulation layers between the battery materials. Or it could be aggravated from vibration, from say driving? They can also catch fire due to failure of the EV battery cooling system. They can also catch fire from overcharging. ? I would call that an EV catching fire by itself.
Yes, an ICE vehicle can catch fire by itself as well, but it almost always happens while driving, because its almost always a flammable - usually gasoline - gets in contact with a heat source. So its almost always instant. In theory you could drive your car into the garage the instant the fuel line started leaking and then walk into the house prior to it bursting into flames. People also win the lottery.
My Wavian can full of gasoline cannot catch itself on fire by itself. I still don't store it in the tuck under garage.
