What ethanol does during storage
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The issue is the damage to carburetors when ethanol laced fuel sits inside for an extended period. Figured that was clear from the thread title and the thumbnail of the video.
You’re welcome to not watch. It’s your time, do what you want. How do you know it’s a “fairly non scientific test” if you didn’t even watch it? It’s a series of several videos. This one is long because he goes through several steps on 8 different engines to show what the viewers wanted to see. Not gonna be doable in ten minutes.
I burn 87 octane E10 at a 50:1 mix. in a Lawn Boy two cycle. The issues with the ethanol can be everything you mentioned, but there are solutions that will make them non issues. I changed the rubber parts like the fuel line and the 2 seals in the carburetor to Viton. I use no additives. I drain the fuel tank and carburetor bowl and run the engine to burn up the last remaining fuel at the end of the season before putting into storage. The float bowl happens to be made from a type of plastic that is unaffected by ethanol so there is no corrosion. All automobile manufactures have made material changes along these lines to eliminate issues with ethanol.
Same here. Had issues issues with Honda small engines that have not had ethanol still gumming up. From what I have noticed it is a gas quality thing. No problems in the areas fed from mainly one supplier but issues where other suppliers are prevalent.
I see it as more issues with gasoline quality, care of equipment, storage of equipment and fuel and materials the carb is made from.
I forgot about the 360...but , in a nut shell , all others junk...Nothing more than a scam in a bottle.
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While I think this guy is better than most after a couple of his videos the funny wears off.
Fair points. And to the OP, I'm glad you posted this.
I am not addicted to much, but YouTube I am enough to be a critic. Not The Critic, but a critic nevertheless.
So I am now at the 16:32 mark, I have seen what he tested labeled on the engines. I certainly draw ZERO conclusions from such testing. First of all, 19 months? Yeah no way no matter what would I just leave a tank of fuel in any engine sit 12+ months, so for sure harsh test, but yeah - please I would think any expectations would end at 12 months - and I am unsure what those companies promise, but beyond 12 months seems like a bonus and those that "failed" maybe really didn't per the label.
Amsoil (which he did NOT test) says:
• Helps keep fuel fresh up to 12 months
• Protects against varnish and gum buildup
• Fights ethanol corrosion
• Ideal for stored seasonal equipment such as snowmobiles, lawnmowers, motorcycles and boats
Amsoil Fuel Stabilizer
My point is not to say the winner is not superior to the others. It might very well be, but how do we know the position of the engine, the temperature or moisture in the shed, different tank of fuel, actual jet size, etc - including known and unknown bias didn't impact the test?
Not sure what he is talking about (so disjointed!!) sometimes - There was engine - with the combo as not counted/DNF because fuel in and out, plus he says he overdosed it. Well with these products, MORE is not always better............just as an example.
PLUS all the items @JohnnyG so wisely lists.
Fun test, but meaningless. Good to know SOLID scientific/controlled testing concepts in today's world with all the garbage being thrown about.
That is the difference. You don't have to store your mower for 6 months during the winter. Also the more sealed the gas tank or container is the better.
Even pure gasoline won’t last forever. Photos are the carburetors of a Yamaha XS-1100 that sat inside a shed leaned up against the wall. The fuel, not ethanol, drained out of the two higher carbs and they remained spotless. The two low ones didn’t fare so well….
Wow that fuel turned back into crude oil.
Same here. I do put a splash of sta-bil in the fuel for the mower and snowblower right before I stop using them, but otherwise they just sit in my uninsulated garage with the gas in unsealed containers.
I think it's going to come down to the environment they're stored in.
I'd guess somewhere dry is going to see a lot fewer issues with gummed up or corroded carbs than somewhere humid. This would explain the difference in experiences people seem to have.
It would be interesting to do a poll on this forum to see if that's the case.
It gets very humid up here, it was in the high 90’s with 90%+ humidity for awhile a few days ago. Even in winter we’ll have high humidity.
Corn is for eating or drinking.
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there are numerous places on the world where corn is a large part of the indigenous peoples diet. These people are the first to be negatively impacted by higher corn prices.
Those higher prices are a direct result from having a good percentage of the world’s corn harvest being repurposed for fuel use.
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Hurts liquor production too.
I generally store 93E10 with Amsoil Stabilizer for three months. Dump it into my truck then get fresh gas. The Honda is running great for 13 years. I did add a fuel shutoff valve to the Briggs power washer since I did have to replace the carb. That gets used maybe 3-4 times a year.
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