What does Joe Namath make doing this commercial?
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Cool, options are good and there are many others out there, even can go direct to the websites of WellCare, Humana, United Health Care, Atena, Cigna, ect ect ... even if you aren't getting hosed, your knowledge might help others some day and at the least confirm what you are paying as a good plan.
I'm guessing he doesn't have the legs to do panty hose commercials anymore...
GON
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George Foreman story from the late 1980s to now is incredible. Invests so much of his time and money investing in vulnerable young people. Got back in the ring after being a "old man" and won the heavyweight boxing title.
Can't think of many athletes who's later chapters in life benefited so many as George Foreman at such a local level. Actually none come to mind. Of course there are athletes and celebrities' that endorse charitable work and have their names on it, and show up at galas... but George did and still does the work.
No idealization of professional athletes on my part ever- but George Foreman is an outstanding model/ example of never giving up, and giving back.
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GON
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I know next to nothing about the Medicare private insurance stuff- but when I do a drive by google on it seems to be ample talk that it is a money grab. Not saying it is by any means... but there must be a reason it is advertised as much as third party auto warranties.
""Kay Tillow writes for Daily Kos about the “Medicare Advantage scam” and beyond. She explains that these for-profit health plans that deliver Medicare benefits are using stars like Joe Namath to mislead people into signing up for coverage that very well might not meet their needs if they get sick or need a lot of costly care. Medicare Advantage plans, in fact, could keep them from accessing critical care.
What Namath does not tell you is that if you choose the wrong Medicare Advantage plan, you might face inappropriate denials of care, along with other administrative and financial barriers to care. Indeed, new research finds that the wrong choice of Medicare Advantage plan might literally kill you. That’s what Yale economics professor Jason Abaluck found when analyzing data about these corporate health plans. But, the plans won’t let you have access to their mortality data, and Congress is not requiring them to give you access.
If you need nursing home care or home care, you are likely to find that the network providers are of poor quality. Medicare Advantage plans maximize profits by paying as little as possible for the care they provide you. So, that can often mean they contract with poor quality providers.
Namath makes it sound as if he is working for Medicare. That he is helping you. He does not explain that he is trying to get you to disenroll from traditional Medicare, the public health insurance plan. What’s worse, he does not explain that if you leave traditional Medicare and enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan, you very well might not be able to switch back to traditional Medicare. Unless you live in Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts or Maine, if you are in poor health and need costly care, insurers that sell supplemental coverage do not have to sell it to you.""
https://justcareusa.org/the-medicare-advantage-scam-and-beyond/
""Kay Tillow writes for Daily Kos about the “Medicare Advantage scam” and beyond. She explains that these for-profit health plans that deliver Medicare benefits are using stars like Joe Namath to mislead people into signing up for coverage that very well might not meet their needs if they get sick or need a lot of costly care. Medicare Advantage plans, in fact, could keep them from accessing critical care.
What Namath does not tell you is that if you choose the wrong Medicare Advantage plan, you might face inappropriate denials of care, along with other administrative and financial barriers to care. Indeed, new research finds that the wrong choice of Medicare Advantage plan might literally kill you. That’s what Yale economics professor Jason Abaluck found when analyzing data about these corporate health plans. But, the plans won’t let you have access to their mortality data, and Congress is not requiring them to give you access.
If you need nursing home care or home care, you are likely to find that the network providers are of poor quality. Medicare Advantage plans maximize profits by paying as little as possible for the care they provide you. So, that can often mean they contract with poor quality providers.
Namath makes it sound as if he is working for Medicare. That he is helping you. He does not explain that he is trying to get you to disenroll from traditional Medicare, the public health insurance plan. What’s worse, he does not explain that if you leave traditional Medicare and enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan, you very well might not be able to switch back to traditional Medicare. Unless you live in Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts or Maine, if you are in poor health and need costly care, insurers that sell supplemental coverage do not have to sell it to you.""
https://justcareusa.org/the-medicare-advantage-scam-and-beyond/
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GON
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One person's not so happy story about the private Medicare Advantage program:
Paula Kay
March 5, 2021 at 11:57 pm
Medicare Advantage, by itself, is a disaster. I signed my Dad up for Medicare Advantage in Oregon many years ago … first, I looked at the program’s “physician directory” to reassure myself that indeed, there were lots of “approved” doctors in the network in every specialty.
What I didn’t know, and only found out later, is that just because a doctor is listed in the directory does not mean that doctor is actually accepting new patients. When I actually needed to get an appointment for my Dad as a new patient of a PCP, it turned out that out of the some 20 doctors listed in his town, only 1 clinic was actually accepting new Medicare patients. (The directory can list any doctor who HAS any Medicare patients, whether or not they are actually willing to take on any new Medicare patients. In my search, I spoke with physicians listed in the directory who had not accepted new Medicare patients in 3 or 4 YEARS. And yet, the Medicare Advantage directory was still allowed to show them as if they were doctors you’d be able to choose.) In the end, we had to wait SIX MONTHS for an appointment.
Your access to doctors when you need one is much, much, much better in Original Medicare. I was fortunate to be able to move my Dad during Open Enrollment the following year, and bought him a good supplement plan on top of it. I get very angry when I see Medicare Advantage being advertised to unsuspecting people who are very likely to need care … and unlikely to be able to get in a timely way if they don’t live in a major metropolitan area.
Paula Kay
March 5, 2021 at 11:57 pm
Medicare Advantage, by itself, is a disaster. I signed my Dad up for Medicare Advantage in Oregon many years ago … first, I looked at the program’s “physician directory” to reassure myself that indeed, there were lots of “approved” doctors in the network in every specialty.
What I didn’t know, and only found out later, is that just because a doctor is listed in the directory does not mean that doctor is actually accepting new patients. When I actually needed to get an appointment for my Dad as a new patient of a PCP, it turned out that out of the some 20 doctors listed in his town, only 1 clinic was actually accepting new Medicare patients. (The directory can list any doctor who HAS any Medicare patients, whether or not they are actually willing to take on any new Medicare patients. In my search, I spoke with physicians listed in the directory who had not accepted new Medicare patients in 3 or 4 YEARS. And yet, the Medicare Advantage directory was still allowed to show them as if they were doctors you’d be able to choose.) In the end, we had to wait SIX MONTHS for an appointment.
Your access to doctors when you need one is much, much, much better in Original Medicare. I was fortunate to be able to move my Dad during Open Enrollment the following year, and bought him a good supplement plan on top of it. I get very angry when I see Medicare Advantage being advertised to unsuspecting people who are very likely to need care … and unlikely to be able to get in a timely way if they don’t live in a major metropolitan area.
Your assumptions and posts on Medicare Advantage plans are all wrong is the nicest way I can say it. But at least you admit that you know nothing about it.
As just about the entire population of this country has some form of supplemental private Medicare insurance that they choose, if they didn’t they would have to pay 20% of their medical bills and ALL their prescription costs (except hospitals) for the rest of their lives.
As far as Advantage C plan instead of government insurance one chooses private insurance all the way instead, do you know why? Private is more efficient, does that surprise anyone??? and with the money government would have spent on you they pay the private insurance company that money and you no longer are liable for 20% of your medical bills for the rest of your life and while they are at it, they throw in all these things not covered which include prescription drugs, dental, vision, hearing and gym memberships at no extra cost.
I would like to know how she would pay for 20% and all drugs for her dad unless she pays an extra $250 a month for private insurance to supplement what Medicare is not going to pay.
Not only this but if you want and don’t like the private Advantage plan you selected like that whining girl post you posted you can switch back!
There is a reason darn close to 30 million people will select Advantage C in 2022, so I would ignore that one girl complaining
and the ones that don’t pay an extra $200 a month to a private ins company for what government won’t cover.
Hope this makes sense! Typing on my phone and dog wants to go outside and play LOL
As just about the entire population of this country has some form of supplemental private Medicare insurance that they choose, if they didn’t they would have to pay 20% of their medical bills and ALL their prescription costs (except hospitals) for the rest of their lives.
As far as Advantage C plan instead of government insurance one chooses private insurance all the way instead, do you know why? Private is more efficient, does that surprise anyone??? and with the money government would have spent on you they pay the private insurance company that money and you no longer are liable for 20% of your medical bills for the rest of your life and while they are at it, they throw in all these things not covered which include prescription drugs, dental, vision, hearing and gym memberships at no extra cost.
I would like to know how she would pay for 20% and all drugs for her dad unless she pays an extra $250 a month for private insurance to supplement what Medicare is not going to pay.
Not only this but if you want and don’t like the private Advantage plan you selected like that whining girl post you posted you can switch back!
There is a reason darn close to 30 million people will select Advantage C in 2022, so I would ignore that one girl complaining
and the ones that don’t pay an extra $200 a month to a private ins company for what government won’t cover.Hope this makes sense! Typing on my phone and dog wants to go outside and play LOL
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GON
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Gladly admit I know nothing about it.... But when I see these commercials ........ I know something is likely not so right....
One doesn't have to bite into a rotten apple to know it's rotten.
Your wrong, 30,000,000 Americans say so in just 2 decades of Advantage C plans no less as well as the AARP.
But you can go the other route, skip private insurance of any form and pay 20% of all your medical bills and all your drug costs after you retire for the rest of your life, I don’t know any American does this but you can be the first, just having fun here, you will learn about options when you get older I guess.
If fir some reason you have full faith in your government then maybe you will feel better knowing each and EVERY plan is reviewed and approved by big brother and again, if you don’t like it, cancel
BTW all these plans are listed on your government website = https://www.medicare.gov/
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GON
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Have to ask... do you have some kind of direct or indirect financial interest/ benefit/ tie to the private Medicare industry?
No, not even close, I do have a thing for accuracy and you admittedly (which was good) were commenting on something you didn’t know anything about, and for some reason you don’t want to accept the truth and even the government website you don’t trust.
I mean I don’t understand what I misunderstanding about your post.
If you don’t believe me, I posted the United States of America website with the same information I am posting here in my previous post.
With Medicare you have a few choices ALL posted on your government official website so I don’t understand the skepticism.
1. If you are eligible for Medicare you are automatically enrolled for free Hospitalization coverage, that is ONLY hospital coverage.
IN addition you are enrolled automatically if receiving Social Security for outside the hospital coverage Doctors, procedures, tests ect, ect, act they then automatically TAKE an additional $150 a month out of your Social Security check every month unless you opt out.
The combined coverage above covers your hospital at 100% and EVERYTHING else at 80% you pay 20% of everything for your entire life even if it means medicare coming in and taking your savings. Plus there is ZERO coverage for dentists, Vision, hearing,
2. or you can sign up for PRIVATE insurance at a cost of roughly $150 a month extra which will cover that 20% you would have to pay for the rest of your life. So your medicare health coverage is now up to $300 a month cost to you to be fully insured but that still does not cover dentists, vision or hearing, you pay 100% of that
3. or you can sign up for private Medicare Advantage C plan, which is a health insurance plan like most Americans are used to with their employer, except there is no deductible. You get hospitalization, doctors, all medical procedures, dental, vision, hearing, all covered. There are co-pays on these procedures but important to know they pay from day one with no deductible You will pay co-pays like MRI $125 act, act, some charge small fees for x rays ... and you can be liable for out of pocket limit up to $4000 to $7500 (depending on the plan you choose) a year in co-pays but almost impossible to hit that. In return, your only cost for this is the $150 a month the government automatically takes out of your Social Security check in #1 the government pays the private insurance for you.
I mean, its all right here, http://www.medicare.gov
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Wrong, the organization trying to sell supplemental policies dident choose him, nor did the companies pushing Medicare Advantage plans (what the commercials are about). Those commercials and many others like it are from marketing companies that sell leads to Agencies that sell Medicare insurance products. Its actually very deceptive, the commercials sound very official to many people but in reality they are selling peoples information to agencies that push products that "replace" the Medicare Benefits they have worked for all their lives. I would recommend to NEVER call a number on your TV because it will be sold over and over again and your phone will never stop ringing.
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Medicare is actually the most simple insurance ever, its 80/20 with some deductibles, period. What confuses people are these commericals and all the other garbage people read and hear especially like this thread.
