What Brand Is Best & WHY is it Best?
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I think there are too many variabiles to answer your question. What engine, how is it driven, all city or all highway, tempeture range and on and on?
Esso XD-3 0w30 full synth HDEO. When my lower intake gasket decided to leak coolant into my engine, the XD-3 didn't emulsify with the oil, and kept everything lubricated. Even after 55,600km/4 years of use (~35k miles) with the same fill of motor oil.
What can I say.... Pretty hard to beat that, and I paid $3.87/L for the stuff at the local Esso/Imperial Oil dealer.
What can I say.... Pretty hard to beat that, and I paid $3.87/L for the stuff at the local Esso/Imperial Oil dealer.
Originally Posted By: Eddie
I think there are too many variabiles to answer your question. What engine, how is it driven, all city or all highway, tempeture range and on and on?
I am not asking for scientific data, just your opinion on what is the best oil and why? There may very well be allot of variables that go into a decision that a consumer makes with respect to oil choice. You don’t have to write a book just tell me what you think.
I think there are too many variabiles to answer your question. What engine, how is it driven, all city or all highway, tempeture range and on and on?
I am not asking for scientific data, just your opinion on what is the best oil and why? There may very well be allot of variables that go into a decision that a consumer makes with respect to oil choice. You don’t have to write a book just tell me what you think.
Uh, it's not about "best" oil or brand. Sure, every brand has some unique product that excells in more of a specialized way....but it all depends. Look at oils like MaxLife Synth, German Syntec, Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel, Rotella, Pennzoil Platinum. They are all good in their own way and frankly, when it comes to plain dino 5w30, all brands perform equally well, give or take slight variances in application, climate, duration, etc.
The forum lessons are more about correct APPLICATION of the various oils available and how to do it in a cost/effective manner. You won't find many guys here dumping Mobil 1 every 3000 miles because it's "best", it's about getting your money's worth out of any oil- in the right application.
If you have a brand you like, use it with confidence. If you have a specialized vehicle or application, like you live at the North Pole, you drive a Euro car or HD yes, a specfic oil might suit you, but you have to state what the starting conditions are. It might be all of the above, a TDI in Northern Territories or none of the above, a BruceBlend 0w-10 Lite in a Texas Jeep.
At some point you have to decide for YOURSELF...and if you say "Royal Purple", we have a problem.
The forum lessons are more about correct APPLICATION of the various oils available and how to do it in a cost/effective manner. You won't find many guys here dumping Mobil 1 every 3000 miles because it's "best", it's about getting your money's worth out of any oil- in the right application.
If you have a brand you like, use it with confidence. If you have a specialized vehicle or application, like you live at the North Pole, you drive a Euro car or HD yes, a specfic oil might suit you, but you have to state what the starting conditions are. It might be all of the above, a TDI in Northern Territories or none of the above, a BruceBlend 0w-10 Lite in a Texas Jeep.
At some point you have to decide for YOURSELF...and if you say "Royal Purple", we have a problem.
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Mobil Clean 5000, $1.98/qt @ Advance Auto Parts. Decent oil, bargain price.
Amsoil ACD SAE 30/10W-30
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil, has the extreme extra HDEO additives, with no thickeners (VII's) or pour point agents. All with a decent price of $21/gallon.
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil, has the extreme extra HDEO additives, with no thickeners (VII's) or pour point agents. All with a decent price of $21/gallon.
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Amsoil ACD SAE 30/10W-30
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil, has the extreme extra HDEO additives, with no thickeners (VII's) or pour point agents. All with a decent price of $21/gallon.
I agree with that,,my small engines love the stuff.
i will add also M1's 0w40,10w30 HM,0w30.
Amsoil ACD SAE 30/10W-30
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil, has the extreme extra HDEO additives, with no thickeners (VII's) or pour point agents. All with a decent price of $21/gallon.
I agree with that,,my small engines love the stuff.
i will add also M1's 0w40,10w30 HM,0w30.
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Amsoil ACD SAE 30/10W-30
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil,
Hey Pab's it is a syn.(PAO)oil
Amsoil ACD SAE 30/10W-30
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil,
Hey Pab's it is a syn.(PAO)oil
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Amsoil ACD SAE 30/10W-30
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil,
Hey Pab's it is a syn.(PAO)oil
Yes it is. Why would you think it isn't?
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Amsoil ACD SAE 30/10W-30
Has all the benefits of synthetic oil,
Hey Pab's it is a syn.(PAO)oil
Yes it is. Why would you think it isn't?
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Yes it is. Why would you think it isn't?
Originally Posted By: Pablo
"Has all the benefits of synthetic oil"
Oh I know it is...no big deal just caught my eye...
Yes it is. Why would you think it isn't?
Originally Posted By: Pablo
"Has all the benefits of synthetic oil"
Oh I know it is...no big deal just caught my eye...
Originally Posted By: omnia
Originally Posted By: Eddie
I think there are too many variabiles to answer your question. What engine, how is it driven, all city or all highway, tempeture range and on and on?
I am not asking for scientific data, just your opinion on what is the best oil and why? There may very well be allot of variables that go into a decision that a consumer makes with respect to oil choice. You don’t have to write a book just tell me what you think.
Well, what the heck. Pennzoil for all the obvious reasons.
Originally Posted By: Eddie
I think there are too many variabiles to answer your question. What engine, how is it driven, all city or all highway, tempeture range and on and on?
I am not asking for scientific data, just your opinion on what is the best oil and why? There may very well be allot of variables that go into a decision that a consumer makes with respect to oil choice. You don’t have to write a book just tell me what you think.
Well, what the heck. Pennzoil for all the obvious reasons.
To clarify: I will be the first to admit that I am very uneducated when it comes to oil and mechanics in general. I do research and gather information from all available sources I have (such as this site and the manufacturer sites) that I use to help *guide* my decisions. So that's why I asked the original question. Engine oil is one of, if not the most important decision an automobile owner makes. So since I am ignorant when it comes to things like this, I decided to ask those who obviously are much more "clear" on the subject than I am.
Johnny...when you say "Pennzoil for the obvious reasons" that is meaningless to me. What are those reasons? For example...other than price, which I know is a big one it seems, WHY would you use Pennzoil INSTEAD of Royal Purple, Mobile 1, Amsoil, or Redline?
Johnny...when you say "Pennzoil for the obvious reasons" that is meaningless to me. What are those reasons? For example...other than price, which I know is a big one it seems, WHY would you use Pennzoil INSTEAD of Royal Purple, Mobile 1, Amsoil, or Redline?
Because my family has used it since 1937 and I worked for them for almost 25 years and they pay my retirement. It's never let us down.
Originally Posted By: omnia
...... Mobile 1, Amsoil, or Redline?
Never under any circumstances write "Mobile", when you mean Mobil.
It just screams ignorance.........yeah I know.....but I needed to put the cure on you.
...... Mobile 1, Amsoil, or Redline?
Never under any circumstances write "Mobile", when you mean Mobil.
It just screams ignorance.........yeah I know.....but I needed to put the cure on you.
Look at it this way. Pretty much any oil will work in any given application for a reasonable amount of time/miles. Where there will some variation is how well each of these unique oil chemistries (amsoil,redline,pennzoil....) effects the given appplication you have in mind. Some also claim that they can "feel" and hear the differences between oils. The best approach would be to go with a product you feel comfortable with and maybe try more than one if you are curious. I use Amsoil, Redline and Pennzoil. All great products but I still feel there is no one size fits all oil. The only way to find out what is "best" is to experiment a little. Thats what makes this stuff so much fun!
Well....OK....Mobil 1 15W-50. I have used nothing but since 1990 when it first became available to me. I have used it in 4 cyl Chevrolet, Volkswagen, Mistubishi, KIA, Totota, Dodge, and Daewoo(Chevrolet Aveo). I have used it in V6 Chevrolet Camaro, Chevrolet Corsica, Pontiac G6, Chevrolet Vans and Dodge van. I have used it in American in block cam pushrod engines and overhead cam engines. My next door neighbor saw me changing oil one day and asked about my choice of oil. He now uses it in an old 427 Corvette, a 427 nitrous Monte Carlo, a Z28 Camaro engine in a 55 chevy coupe, a 4.3 V6 in a S10 Chevrolet pickup and a large V8 in a silverado 4 door pickup truck. All foreign engines were OHC or DUAL OHC. None ever used a drop of oil between OCI and never an engine problem of any kind. Except for one that was totaled,(66,000) they all had well over 100,000 miles when they were traded. One 4 cyl Toyota with almost 300,000 miles and one 4 cyl Chevrolet with just over 201,000 are still in use daily. Gas mileage ON EVERY VEHICLE has been better than the EPA estimate for both city and highway.
Sooo....that is my candidate.
Sooo....that is my candidate.
Royal Purple cause I get to pretend I am KILLING BARNEY!!!!
LOL!!!
SOPUS Stuff cause I get to pretend I am Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Dale Jr., kevin Harvick, Michael Schumacher (when he still raced), Any of my heros from Indy who raced under the Pennzoil colors, etc. etc. etc.
Castrol GTX, John Force or WRC cars or 5W-50 Syntec with a Fram Extra Guard filter to just make people on BITOG Cringe!!!
Amsoil is good but still have a fondness for REDLINE OIL!!! SCCA racing rules!
Mobil 1 was always just fine but never liked it as much as Redline.
NO NO I know.....
Must be Peak cause they sponsor Danica!!!! VA Va Vooom!!!! Or did I spy a Mobil1 Sticker on her car at Indy never got a real good look down low near the rear tire!!
LOL!!!
SOPUS Stuff cause I get to pretend I am Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Dale Jr., kevin Harvick, Michael Schumacher (when he still raced), Any of my heros from Indy who raced under the Pennzoil colors, etc. etc. etc.
Castrol GTX, John Force or WRC cars or 5W-50 Syntec with a Fram Extra Guard filter to just make people on BITOG Cringe!!!
Amsoil is good but still have a fondness for REDLINE OIL!!! SCCA racing rules!
Mobil 1 was always just fine but never liked it as much as Redline.
NO NO I know.....
Must be Peak cause they sponsor Danica!!!! VA Va Vooom!!!! Or did I spy a Mobil1 Sticker on her car at Indy never got a real good look down low near the rear tire!!
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Allright, it sounds like you are asking for a fully varnished, completely biased, non-objective opinion, and if so then here is mine.
Red Line is the best oil. There are three reasons for this:
- I do think there is enough reason to believe that the POE "jet turbine engine" base stocks that they use are the best available "cost no object" base stocks for a high performance motor oil - and that they use as much or more of it in their blend (probably more) than any other maker.
- The oils are well additized with a bias towards high stress conditions, and as far as I can tell towards pure anti-wear performance over long drain performance, which is my preference.
- I'm not afraid to trust the opinions of people who have more experience than me, and I have personally and subjectively been more impressed by those opinions I have seen in favor of Red Line oil than in favor of any other oil. It seems to be perhaps the favorite among engine builders and racers who favor wear performance over other criteria (fractional improvements in efficiency, for example).
An honorable mention goes to any SM oil, preferrably cheap, of the right grade for a given car, because with the SM standards and Grp II/III blending, those have become outstanding oils at bargain prices.
And in between, Amsoil's PAO products, because I think their long-drain performance is second to none, providing an economical and high performing alternative to people who'd rather do an oil change every 18k miles than every 7.5k.
Red Line is the best oil. There are three reasons for this:
- I do think there is enough reason to believe that the POE "jet turbine engine" base stocks that they use are the best available "cost no object" base stocks for a high performance motor oil - and that they use as much or more of it in their blend (probably more) than any other maker.
- The oils are well additized with a bias towards high stress conditions, and as far as I can tell towards pure anti-wear performance over long drain performance, which is my preference.
- I'm not afraid to trust the opinions of people who have more experience than me, and I have personally and subjectively been more impressed by those opinions I have seen in favor of Red Line oil than in favor of any other oil. It seems to be perhaps the favorite among engine builders and racers who favor wear performance over other criteria (fractional improvements in efficiency, for example).
An honorable mention goes to any SM oil, preferrably cheap, of the right grade for a given car, because with the SM standards and Grp II/III blending, those have become outstanding oils at bargain prices.
And in between, Amsoil's PAO products, because I think their long-drain performance is second to none, providing an economical and high performing alternative to people who'd rather do an oil change every 18k miles than every 7.5k.
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