What Brand Is Best & WHY is it Best?

[virginoil]

Hi

How much commission is there in promoting redline.

Let me know, I may join the band wagon.

A CLEAR point to note Redline is the best oil only in certain applications.

This is not be confused by new memebers thinking and applying it across the board that is it the best for every vehicle and every driving situation.

 

[Steve S]

The best oil is the lowest priced oil that will make your engine last untill you sell or trade it in.

 

[PandaBear]

Best: Chevron Supreme or Formula Shell, depends on the deal of the week at CSK.

Why: They are only 49c after rebates, Chevron has a lot of Moly, and Shell at least meet the SM spec which is very good quality.

Seriously, if you didn't say what you are using it for, what are you trying to accomplish, people like can throw in some "what the heck" answers that may seems out of whack answers "for the obvious reasons".

Does price matter? If not, I'd imagine Redline for every 3k miles are the best, or Mobil 1 Extended Performance if you hate oil change and mail order, or Amsoil if you want 25k miles OCI and don't mind mail order.....

 

[buster]

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It seems to be perhaps the favorite among engine builders and racers who favor wear performance over other criteria


I don't think this is true honestly. Maybe in NHRA.

Your Group IV/V based oils make the best high performance oils. One without the other won't make for a good oil.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: buster
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It seems to be perhaps the favorite among engine builders and racers who favor wear performance over other criteria


I don't think this is true honestly. Maybe in NHRA.

When Joe Gibb's racing was looking for a better oil than M1 R, they tried Redline 30wt and according to their testing, didn't even do as well as Mobil 1 R 0w-30. This is in a Nascar engine. Anyway, they now use their own oil designed for them.


Yup, and you'd have to question all the (money inspired I'm sure) cars in Formula 1, LeMans...etc that run Mobil 1...... I would imagine the oil with the greatest racing following would be Mobil 1 just due to the sheer amount of money they have dumped into racing, not to mention the quality of their product.

 

[bobfather99]

Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Best: Chevron Supreme or Formula Shell, depends on the deal of the week at CSK.

Why: They are only 49c after rebates, Chevron has a lot of Moly, and Shell at least meet the SM spec which is very good quality.

Seriously, if you didn't say what you are using it for, what are you trying to accomplish, people like can throw in some "what the heck" answers that may seems out of whack answers "for the obvious reasons".

Does price matter? If not, I'd imagine Redline for every 3k miles are the best, or Mobil 1 Extended Performance if you hate oil change and mail order, or Amsoil if you want 25k miles OCI and don't mind mail order.....



I agree, and for the same reasons...
Ive used up my Chevron, now using the Superflo and the odd-quarts, then Ill start using the Shell.

Changing oil is necessary fun, so is saving money!!!

 

[BerndV]

Originally Posted By: glennc
I'm not afraid to trust the opinions of people who have more experience than me, and I have personally and subjectively been more impressed by those opinions I have seen in favor of Red Line oil than in favor of any other oil. It seems to be perhaps the favorite among engine builders and racers who favor wear performance over other criteria (fractional improvements in efficiency, for example).
I would have to agree with this statement. I actually "discovered" Redline in a conversation with one of the Newman-Haas pilots who happened to be my father's best friend. He told me that despite the Texaco/Havoline team sponsorship, what circulated in those engines was Redline. The team actually went to the trouble of refilling Havoline containers with Redline. He also alluded to the fact that Newman-Haas was not the only team doing so. His conversations with crew chiefs led him to believe that this practice was quite common among race teams of every sort. Redline has also been a favorite among 4 stroke motorcycle racers due to the shear resistance needed in an oil that lubricates the engine and transmission together.

 

[buster]

I believe in "some" instances, sure, what is on the side of the car is not in the engine. But when Mobil released official numbers for Nascar back in 2003, 74% were using Mobil 1 by choice, in all 3 Nascar series. IRL was 100% M1. Penske gets custom blended oils for them.

I had asked a guy that works for JGR and was formerly a Nascar driver. He said the following:

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Doug Yates builds all the Roush engines, and he told us that they use a
special blend from Shell that is made just for their engines. I don't
know of any legitimate NASCAR Team that uses anything but our oil,
Valvoline R&D Racing Blend, Mobil R&D Racing Blend or the Shell R&D Racing
Blend. By the way, Roush is sponsored by Valvoline, so I doubt they
gave any other company the go ahead to use their name in conjunction with
selling a competing brand of oil.




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No single base oil offers un-matched performance. To create a well
rounded product, you need to bring in different base oils to bring in
different performance characteristics.

 

[buster]

I wasn't trying to put RL down, but just some facts I came across over the years revealed some interesting things about what is actually used in certain motorsports. Redline's biggest market seems to be drag racing. I could be wrong, but that is how it appears on their website.

Those Mobil #'s are "Official" and not made up either.

 

[glennc]

Isn't it likely that most teams at the highest levels are running special blends of whatever it is? In that case I wouldn't even expect Red Line to be represented. Any blender can make a blend of any quality for a given purpose (well, not quite, I'm sure there is a fair bit of specialized knowledge, but the gaps probably aren't huge). What matters to me is teams, mostly at the lower levels of racing, I suppose, that have to buy their own oil and their own engine parts and have barely enough money to do it with.

 

[Zaedock]

Chevron Delo400 SAE30 HDEO.

Why?: Because I picked 'em up for $.99/Gallon and I run them in everything in the summer. It holds up very well to the abuse I put my trail Jeep through and it can easily go 7500+ miles in the daily driver.

Plus, SAE30 rocks.

 

[Gary Allan]

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What Brand Is Best
Bruceblend® 0w oils.
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& WHY is it Best?
It's always in style and demand ..but never in stock. The greatest oil that never was.

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: glennc
Isn't it likely that most teams at the highest levels are running special blends of whatever it is? In that case I wouldn't even expect Red Line to be represented. Any blender can make a blend of any quality for a given purpose (well, not quite, I'm sure there is a fair bit of specialized knowledge, but the gaps probably aren't huge). What matters to me is teams, mostly at the lower levels of racing, I suppose, that have to buy their own oil and their own engine parts and have barely enough money to do it with.


Agree. Redline makes unique grades (0w2, 0w5 etc) you can't get from other blenders. Their oils certainly have good qualities to them and seem to be designed for high temperature/load racing.

 

[[RT] ProjUltraZ]

the best oil is the one that delivers the lowest wear on UOA at your intervals on that vehicle.

 

[ericthepig]

Originally Posted By: glennc
... Amsoil's PAO products, because I think their long-drain performance is second to none, providing an economical and high performing alternative to people who'd rather do an oil change every 18k miles than every 7.5k.


Preach it!