I wonder just how long we have before the oil companies start to "PHASE" out mineral oils? Everything else is gradually being forced on us. So I dont see much difference here.
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Originally Posted By: lexus114
Seems like a plan, but as I mentioned on here before (although this wont affect you) The Quaker State Conventional 5w30 only has a pour point of -30. I would like to hear from the guy`s/gals on here that use it in cold climates.
I've used Quaker State 5w30 for a lot of years in our cold climate, down to -40 C, including some unaided starts. I can't say I've had any problems with it.
That being said, I have no idea how the MRV and pour points compared between the current SN Quaker State Conventional compared to what I used most (SM and earlier).
Seems like a plan, but as I mentioned on here before (although this wont affect you) The Quaker State Conventional 5w30 only has a pour point of -30. I would like to hear from the guy`s/gals on here that use it in cold climates.
I've used Quaker State 5w30 for a lot of years in our cold climate, down to -40 C, including some unaided starts. I can't say I've had any problems with it.
That being said, I have no idea how the MRV and pour points compared between the current SN Quaker State Conventional compared to what I used most (SM and earlier).
My wife drives around 18,000+ miles per year in her 2005 Explorer with the 4.6 engine. She uses synthetic for the 2x yearly oil change. My 2002 F-150 only goes about 5,000 miles anually so I use Motorcraft 5W-20 once a year. My 1996 Contour, mainly our long distance vacation car sees 8,500 mile OCI's or 2 years on Schaeffer 700 SynBlend. Will try G-Oil next, great coupon, will check to see the used oil analysis on this site to help determine the OCI.
Whimsey
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I used synthetic in my 05 Nissan Sentra for a while but I'm back on dino since its cheaper and I wasn't running it long enough.
For most,synthetics arent needed,especially since the new SN standard.
Originally Posted By: lexus114
Seems like a plan, but as I mentioned on here before (although this wont affect you) The Quaker State Conventional 5w30 only has a pour point of -30. I would like to hear from the guy`s/gals on here that use it in cold climates.
Was -7 here this morning. While not very happy about it, she started up fine. Syn might have helped a little, but then again it might not have.
Seems like a plan, but as I mentioned on here before (although this wont affect you) The Quaker State Conventional 5w30 only has a pour point of -30. I would like to hear from the guy`s/gals on here that use it in cold climates.
Was -7 here this morning. While not very happy about it, she started up fine. Syn might have helped a little, but then again it might not have.
I know they say its a myth about running syn causing issues/leaks in a higher mileage vehicle after its been on dino all its life but I just recently decided to try good ol' German Castrol in my 94 Acura integra which sees 100miles daily and about 3000 mile into the OCI it sprung a major oil leak at the oil pump o-ring and at the cam seals... I fixed the leaks and went back to dino... didn't notice any difference in how the car runs and when I tore the engine down to replace the seals/gaskets its was as clean as a whistle with 100k+ miles.
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Originally Posted By: lexus114
Seems like a plan, but as I mentioned on here before (although this wont affect you) The Quaker State Conventional 5w30 only has a pour point of -30. I would like to hear from the guy`s/gals on here that use it in cold climates.
Was -7 here this morning. While not very happy about it, she started up fine. Syn might have helped a little, but then again it might not have.
-7. Hehehe. I got up and ran out to start my truck. -48 with the windchill. Truck started right up. Got Pennzoil Conventional 5w30 in er. And liqui-moly
Originally Posted By: lexus114
Seems like a plan, but as I mentioned on here before (although this wont affect you) The Quaker State Conventional 5w30 only has a pour point of -30. I would like to hear from the guy`s/gals on here that use it in cold climates.
Was -7 here this morning. While not very happy about it, she started up fine. Syn might have helped a little, but then again it might not have.
-7. Hehehe. I got up and ran out to start my truck. -48 with the windchill. Truck started right up. Got Pennzoil Conventional 5w30 in er. And liqui-moly
Hey there Lexus 114-Nodak here and I've got the Quaker State Ultimate Durability in my Corolla and have noticed a quieter startup on the cold mornings as compared to the M1 that was used--less clatter. The mornings have gotten colder-(-14), and I for one am glad that I have the synthetic running in that car. I do have the Quaker State Conventional in my buick and pickup, but will use synthetic when next oil change comes around. Been using 5-30 in all. I had been using Valvoline conventional as I mentioned in another thread,but am happy with the QS. The Quaker State Ultimate Durability is only 4 to 5 dollars more a jug than the Valvoline conventional so why not use it with extended intervals? Seems like a heck of a bargain for synthetic.
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Hey there Lexus 114-Nodak here and I've got the Quaker State Ultimate Durability in my Corolla and have noticed a quieter startup on the cold mornings as compared to the M1 that was used--less clatter. The mornings have gotten colder-(-14), and I for one am glad that I have the synthetic running in that car. I do have the Quaker State Conventional in my buick and pickup, but will use synthetic when next oil change comes around. Been using 5-30 in all. I had been using Valvoline conventional as I mentioned in another thread,but am happy with the QS. The Quaker State Ultimate Durability is only 4 to 5 dollars more a jug than the Valvoline conventional so why not use it with extended intervals? Seems like a heck of a bargain for synthetic.
Hi Nodak, I`m glad to hear the Quaker State Ultimate Durability is doing well. Never doubted it wouldnt be. It`s still a really weird winter here so far. Some snow tomorrow (just a few inches) then back up to 50 degrees again Monday.
Hey there Lexus 114-Nodak here and I've got the Quaker State Ultimate Durability in my Corolla and have noticed a quieter startup on the cold mornings as compared to the M1 that was used--less clatter. The mornings have gotten colder-(-14), and I for one am glad that I have the synthetic running in that car. I do have the Quaker State Conventional in my buick and pickup, but will use synthetic when next oil change comes around. Been using 5-30 in all. I had been using Valvoline conventional as I mentioned in another thread,but am happy with the QS. The Quaker State Ultimate Durability is only 4 to 5 dollars more a jug than the Valvoline conventional so why not use it with extended intervals? Seems like a heck of a bargain for synthetic.
Hi Nodak, I`m glad to hear the Quaker State Ultimate Durability is doing well. Never doubted it wouldnt be. It`s still a really weird winter here so far. Some snow tomorrow (just a few inches) then back up to 50 degrees again Monday.
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Originally Posted By: lexus114
Originally Posted By: Nodak
Hey there Lexus 114-Nodak here and I've got the Quaker State Ultimate Durability in my Corolla and have noticed a quieter startup on the cold mornings as compared to the M1 that was used--less clatter. The mornings have gotten colder-(-14), and I for one am glad that I have the synthetic running in that car. I do have the Quaker State Conventional in my buick and pickup, but will use synthetic when next oil change comes around. Been using 5-30 in all. I had been using Valvoline conventional as I mentioned in another thread,but am happy with the QS. The Quaker State Ultimate Durability is only 4 to 5 dollars more a jug than the Valvoline conventional so why not use it with extended intervals? Seems like a heck of a bargain for synthetic.
Hi Nodak, I`m glad to hear the Quaker State Ultimate Durability is doing well. Never doubted it wouldnt be. It`s still a really weird winter here so far. Some snow tomorrow (just a few inches) then back up to 50 degrees again Monday.
And you're complaining? My old bones and wallet appreciate this "wierd winter" we're having in NJ so far.
Whimsey
Originally Posted By: Nodak
Hey there Lexus 114-Nodak here and I've got the Quaker State Ultimate Durability in my Corolla and have noticed a quieter startup on the cold mornings as compared to the M1 that was used--less clatter. The mornings have gotten colder-(-14), and I for one am glad that I have the synthetic running in that car. I do have the Quaker State Conventional in my buick and pickup, but will use synthetic when next oil change comes around. Been using 5-30 in all. I had been using Valvoline conventional as I mentioned in another thread,but am happy with the QS. The Quaker State Ultimate Durability is only 4 to 5 dollars more a jug than the Valvoline conventional so why not use it with extended intervals? Seems like a heck of a bargain for synthetic.
Hi Nodak, I`m glad to hear the Quaker State Ultimate Durability is doing well. Never doubted it wouldnt be. It`s still a really weird winter here so far. Some snow tomorrow (just a few inches) then back up to 50 degrees again Monday.
And you're complaining? My old bones and wallet appreciate this "wierd winter" we're having in NJ so far.
Whimsey
Its just odd weather patterns we have here these day`s. And seems to get more odd every year. C`mon that storm in October was beyond strange/odd. I ordered a generator after that one! No more 4-5 days with out power.
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This weather is very strange, that's for sure.
I just took the RX out for a drive, to test out the "new" but old Goodyear Wrangler HP Tire's which I picked up for only $225 installed. They did well in 5 inches of unplowed snow. The RX is a beast in the snow itself though, so that was expected. These tires are much louder than my worn out Michelin's.
Back to the topic: I don't plan on switching to Dino, it's not much more expensive to run Synthetic.
I just took the RX out for a drive, to test out the "new" but old Goodyear Wrangler HP Tire's which I picked up for only $225 installed. They did well in 5 inches of unplowed snow. The RX is a beast in the snow itself though, so that was expected. These tires are much louder than my worn out Michelin's.
Back to the topic: I don't plan on switching to Dino, it's not much more expensive to run Synthetic.
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I'll keep using synthetic oil because I'm planning to have the vehicle until 200k miles (or more I hope) and most important it needs to pass an emission test every two years.
Paying say an extra $10 to $15 for synthetic oil is cheap insurance, comparing to rebuilding an engine or buying another vehicle.
Paying say an extra $10 to $15 for synthetic oil is cheap insurance, comparing to rebuilding an engine or buying another vehicle.
Originally Posted By: Frank@Toronto
I'll keep using synthetic oil because I'm planning to have the vehicle until 200k miles (or more I hope) and most important it needs to pass an emission test every two years.
Paying say an extra $10 to $15 for synthetic oil is cheap insurance, comparing to rebuilding an engine or buying another vehicle.
Conventional oil would get you 200k no problem. And beyond.
I'll keep using synthetic oil because I'm planning to have the vehicle until 200k miles (or more I hope) and most important it needs to pass an emission test every two years.
Paying say an extra $10 to $15 for synthetic oil is cheap insurance, comparing to rebuilding an engine or buying another vehicle.
Conventional oil would get you 200k no problem. And beyond.
Originally Posted By: Frank@Toronto
I'll keep using synthetic oil because I'm planning to have the vehicle until 200k miles (or more I hope) and most important it needs to pass an emission test every two years.
Paying say an extra $10 to $15 for synthetic oil is cheap insurance, comparing to rebuilding an engine or buying another vehicle.
Unless you have a vehicle that synthetic is required by design, using synthetic will not protect your vehicle any better or any worst then conventional. With industry standards becoming more stringent every year the gap between "conventional" and "synthetic" is narrowing. That is my 2 pennies.
I'll keep using synthetic oil because I'm planning to have the vehicle until 200k miles (or more I hope) and most important it needs to pass an emission test every two years.
Paying say an extra $10 to $15 for synthetic oil is cheap insurance, comparing to rebuilding an engine or buying another vehicle.
Unless you have a vehicle that synthetic is required by design, using synthetic will not protect your vehicle any better or any worst then conventional. With industry standards becoming more stringent every year the gap between "conventional" and "synthetic" is narrowing. That is my 2 pennies.
Well!!! We are getting our snow up here in N.D. tonite finally there Lexus 114-Sunday evening and we are to get 5 inches. Not cold though, only 25 degrees. I agree with other posters that conventional will get you a lot of miles. I can personally attest to that, but I feel with our cold weather,(normally below zero a lot this time of year), the synthetic will be better for our vehicles for startup mode. I can pick up Quaker State Ultimate Durability for 20 dollars and some odd cents.And the Valvoline conventional is 16 dollars and some odd cents. I can run longer oil change intervals, so it does seem to work for me. Once again thanks for the recommendation on the Quaker State Ultimate Durability Lexus.
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