Weird filter media

[zyxelenator]

Here is a pic from Russian BITOG.
Never seen "foamy" media before. It is Toyota filter,Also

There is also lots of pictures of filters uncut and cut open, that you wont see in US or Canada. 74 page thread,so click thru to find pics.
Also a question mostly to Canadians: do you guys happen to have bursted filter gasket and oil light come up on cold start in - 30 C winters? Or it's just [censored] china filters and or fake filters.
more pics are here http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/3-masljanie-filtri/

 

[zyxelenator]

another view

 

[ZeeOSix]

That style of filer comes on the engines from the Toyota factory.

 

[chubbs1]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
That style of filer comes on the engines from the Toyota factory.

+1 This used to be a common toyota OEM filter. I don't know how easy they are to get anymore but just a different style.

 

[zyxelenator]

Hmm, Comrades are saying that media is kinda foamy, not just paper.

 

[Sayjac]

Yep, the OEM Asian foam filters with pics have been posted here several times. First time I've noticed the flat spring bypass design on other than a Purolator though.

The one on the right looks like an ecore variant, but with a silicone adbv and separate bypass built into the retainer spring, rather than a combo valve.

 

[zyxelenator]

Other one is Nitto filter

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: zyxelenator
Also a question mostly to Canadians: do you guys happen to have bursted filter gasket and oil light come up on cold start in - 30 C winters? Or it's just [censored] china filters and or fake filters.


No to any filter problems whatsoever. And to the oil light issue, no. It comes on as usual and goes out as usual when pressure rises. It might take a tiny bit longer, but nothing serious. And, I've used 5w-30 to below -40 C, too.

The foamy looking filter should be a Denso made filter, for original factory installation, not aftermarket or OEM parts use.

 

[zyxelenator]

Well, it seems that comrades in Russia have oil light come on for up to 8 sec (mostly up to 3 sec) in cold winters, with 5w also. Are those foamy filters good?

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: zyxelenator
Well, it seems that comrades in Russia have oil light come on for up to 8 sec (mostly up to 3 sec) in cold winters, with 5w also. Are those foamy filters good?


For the time, well, it seems to depend on the vehicle and the viscosity. I've never really timed the light, but in -40 C, I've never had the oil light stay on longer in a cold start than when, say, I change the oil in my F-150 and the filter is filling as the oil pressure comes up. The longest I probably ever had was possibly somewhere in the eight second neighbourhood, and that would have been in around -40 C years ago in my LTD, with a sideways mounted filter with no ADBV.

Those foamy filters are reputed to be good. Their Densos, and they tend to make good filters. Good luck finding one, though. ARCOgraphite looked pretty extensively for them, if I recall correctly, and I did some checking without any luck, either. The normal Denso is easy to find, at least in the States. The factory original Denso is another matter.

As cool as I think those filters are, there are more than enough quality filters readily available and at a reasonable price.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Yeah, my older yaris and rav LOVED LOVED the OEM toyota japan 90915-10003 or 10004 foam media. Looks like an Home heating oil strainer

The vvti never seemed to work right on anything else. I think some older lexus will spec the japan filter vs the thailand denso. You might be able to get them at a Lexus parts window (does lexus even have a parts window? How gauche!

 

[fastrider1300]

Ive seen those on yamaha motorcycles always wondered if they
decent filters

 

[river_rat]

Originally Posted By: Garak
...Good luck finding one, though. ARCOgraphite looked pretty extensively for them, if I recall correctly, and I did some checking without any luck, either...

Easy. Go to a Toyota lot at 3:00 AM. Bring your filter wrench.

Seriously, I tried finding them, too. No luck. But that one cam on my truck and somewhere on this forum I have pictures of it cut open. I don't know what the eficiency rating is, but it seems like grit would never make it through that hard foam.

 

[steve20]

from the Russian url:

I do not understand Russian, but this doesn't look very positive


"""opps imel vvidy FRAM Extended Guard nashet xoroshix."""

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: river_rat
But that one cam on my truck and somewhere on this forum I have pictures of it cut open.


Yes. ARCO and I went on our wild goose chases after we saw your pics, if I recall correctly.

 

[zyxelenator]

Originally Posted By: steve20
from the Russian url:

I do not understand Russian, but this doesn't look very positive


"""opps imel vvidy FRAM Extended Guard nashet xoroshix."""

That was my post in transliteration. Tired to go transit.ru. every time. I don't have Russian\English keyboard at work

I said, that I got confused between FRAM TG and EG, and I actually meant that EG worth money spent on it,not TG

 

[zyxelenator]

I actually confused myself before also, bought 2 TG instead of EG. They look almost same from outside.

 

[Towncivilian]

Originally Posted By: steve20
from the Russian url:

I do not understand Russian, but this doesn't look very positive


"""opps imel vvidy FRAM Extended Guard nashet xoroshix."""

I believe this means "Oops, I meant FRAM Extended Guard are regarded as good."

 

[zyxelenator]

close. It was referred to my previous post, were I mentioned Tough Guard.

 

[Shannow]

When Toyota dropped that filter (media went from that to a very expensive pleated paper) downunder for the same part number, I went to Purolator.