Originally Posted By: billt460
Weapon Shield is one of the highest customer rated firearm lubrication products wherever it's sold. If you need an example, check the customer reviews at Midway USA. No other product comes close. (About the only other one is Bore Tech Eliminator, which is not a lubricant).
George Fennel is an educated lubrication specialist who was a member of the SAE for years. He himself designed and marketed the original FP-10 product. After he sold the company, and the formula he designed was changed until it no longer represented his original product, he then went to work and designed the Steel Shield / Weapon Shield line of products. Which have gone on to become some of the most successful in the industry.
The fact is Weapon Shield is used by countless civilian's, military, and law enforcement all over the globe.
If there was ANY, repeat ANY evidence this product inducing metal fatigue, rust, corrosion on firearms, you most certainly would have heard about it, and seen evidence of it by now from someone. The product has been out in the marketplace for well over a decade. You don't because it hasn't. Not in ANY climate. Hot, cold, dry, or humid.
As far as the Falex test being a "distraction".... A distraction to what? The machine has been around doing what it's designed to do for 70 years. Why is it always the products Weapon Shield outperforms in these tests, are constantly the one's trying to discredit it?
George Fennel is an upstanding guy who answers straight questions with honest answers. Quite rare in todays world. His credentials are impeccable. Especially against these ex "operators", Navy Seals, and others who produce products like "Frog Lube", and have zero education or experience in lubrication. But rather sell based on experience that has nothing to do with lubrication.
Now, if you don't want to believe him, me, or the thousands of people who have used this product with great success, that's fine. It's a free country, and you can use whatever you choose on your weapons. I have zero vested interest in this product, and could care less who uses it, and who doesn't. Personally, I've tried just about everything in the way of "gun oils", and found this to be noticeably better.
But if you have no evidence of it, please spare us all this nonsense about corrosion, rust, and all of the other associated accusations, of which there is not a shred of evidence of it occurring anywhere by the use of this product. All this does is create yet more Internet bull$h!t, of which there is too much already. Need proof? Just look at all of the "Chlorinated Ester" nonsense that's been written thus far,
without a single damaged firearm being offered up as proof of this occurring directly because of using Weapon Shield on it.
You may not believe Weapon Shield is better than other products. Again, that's perfectly acceptable. But don't spread nonsense that it could damage by way of rust,corrosion, and or "metal fatigue",
when there is zero evidence of it happening anywhere because of it's use.
Fireclean got a 4.6 out of 263 reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/FIREClean-Anti-Fou...words=Fireclean
Weaponshield got a 4.8...out of 22 reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/Shield-Technologie...s=weapon+shield
personally, I don't find reviews on Amazon, Brownells, etc. very useful. Here is what FIREClean did when it was applied to my father's rifle, which sat in his safe for an extended period of time:
But it did so WELL in reviews...
However, NOTHING I have used has compared to Fireclean in actually keeping the gun running. Just don't use it for storage.
I would also point out that my M4 kept running just fine, after 1500+ rounds of suppressed shooting using Wolf ammunition...using MPRO 7 LPX...but it DID corrode due to wolf being corrosive (in my opinion and observations...look at the evidence...) However, it corroded and was a NIGHTMARE to clean...
So, yes, I am very demanding of a product. I want it to "store" well, I want it to facilitate easy clean-up, and I want it to "run" well, and I want corrosion protection.
So far my only complaint in function with WS is that when carbon is introduced to the picture, it tends to become rather "gritty". My M4 will require a bit of a tug to unlock if I shoot a hundred rounds or so, and then set it aside for an evening, and then try to cycle the action, when lubed with Weapon Shield or MPRO7 LPX. With FIREClean, it always felt clean, even when it was filthy...but FC totally fails because it polymerizes and gunks up, as I pictured.
SLIP 2000 EWL is the next thing I'm going to try.
As to your allegations about Froglube, it was produced by Trillium Solutions by Scott Lee. They are a legitimate company, making legitimate products. People like Larry Lasky were just "faces", and people who tried to use those products on firearms...where they worked fine until they polymerized and gunked up.