Originally Posted By: UncleDave
Been skywatching all my life. Almost everything is explainable, with predictable and repeatable arcs and movements - until it isn't.
When one of those specks of lite, dots, objects you are tracking across the sky makes a 90 degree right hand turn at thousands of miles an hour, comes to an instant halt, or accelerates out of your field of vision from a dead stop in less time than an eye blink, thats not natural, and we can't do that.
When visible objects violate the laws of newtonian physics one has to ask deeper more uncomfortable questions.
I suspect you're trolling as you've now posted enough, defending a very weak argument. Further, it's clear YOU haven't observed this phenomenon. So, why so vigorously defend someone elses account..that you don't even know?
Lots of people have 'skywatched', however that doesn't mean they're trained, skilled observers. As an astronomer, I'm amazed at just how little most people understand about our own Earth & Moon, much less solar system, much even less our own galaxy. I've heard some very weird stuff while doing public star parties for about 25yrs for all age groups.
It's very easy to loose your point of reference when dealing with 3D space even in our atmosphere. Since these observations have all been 'seen' in the visible light part of the EM spectrum AND by humans AND by the majority standing on
terra firma, I'll proceed with these constraints.
There are plenty of observations & conclusions that are unexplainable outside of ET-UFOs. Thus it isn't rare...at all. A lot has been understood...but not all.
Lite? You mean light? Speck? Dot? How far away can you see a dime? At night? How about a quarter? Could you still see it if it was thrown up into the air at night? What are the viewing conditions? What's your vision? Were you dark-adapted? What have you been drinking? Smoking?
Have you personally observed this phenomenon? Have you tracked any of these objects? Once? Twice? Multiple times? 90°? Measured against what? After all, plane geometry no longer applies. We're in 3D, thus spherical geometry and spherical trigonometry apply. How was the plane of flight tilted? Was it coming towards them? Moving away? At what angle to North? After all, even a 90° corner doesn't look such on a perspective drawing....
which is on a flat sheet of paper. So again, how do you know it was 90°? Compared to what reference? On what plane of reference?
How many thousands? How was that measured? Vectors have both magnitude & direction...so what direction? Instant stop? Start? Acceleration? Really?? Who says? According to who? Even you don't believe this is possible (fortunately...), yet you believe someone else's account of it is? Why is that? Why is it possible if
they saw it, but not
you?
Originally Posted By: uncleDave
accelerates out of your field of vision from a dead stop in less time than an eye blink, thats not natural, and we can't do that.
You acknowledge "we can't do that", yet believe someone who said they saw this? Ockham's Razor dictates that the simpliest explanation is often correct: They didn't. After all, if it's not possible....then how is it possible? Logic dictates it isn't and the observation was false.
We humans are blessed with a very wide FOV & stereo vision, else we might not have made it thus far. However at night, in pitch dark, where only the Milky Way lights the sky and nothing else, your claim still doesn't hold up. If it actually occured in less than a 'blink-of-an-eye', then how do they know what they saw? It couldn't have been anything else, right? And since the observer is so sure of what he/she saw and they can't be mistaken, it HAS to be extraterrestrial, right?
Congrats...you've actually met a perfect, infalable human being. (They don't exist....even in the military).
One more thing...as an audio engineer....where's the sonic boom?
Even meteors cause sonic booms. So do much, much, much slower moving jets. Why amongst all of these ET-craft sightings, no one hears anything..not even a sonic boom. After all any craft that big can't have zero mass. And the atmosphere within a mile of the surface is rather dense...even more so when the craft is floating (silently) just above your head.
Impossible acceleration, infinite power, huge craft....
where's the boom? The shock wave alone would break windows across several states. Where's the trail of shattered glass? THAT would DEFINITELY make headlines across the world as did the meteor in Russia. That one was actually caught on video!
I've posted my own "deeper & uncomfortable" questions contradicting your claims of IT MUST BE TRUE!!! What awaits to be seen is in what manner will you reply. I have my doubts...
