VW surpasses Toyota as number one in sales 2016

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
Originally Posted By: edyvw
504.00/507.00 can be used in 505.01 applications, except that PD engines love heavy Euro oils (5W40), which 504.00/507.00 is not and cannot be.

507.00 coils are not available in 5W-40 grade?

The reason PD engines like a heavy grade is because VW engineers screwed-up the lubrication of the camshaft, causing premature wear and eventual failure. (Yet another example of VW's poor engine reliability.)


Same engines never had that problem in Europe. I had that engine in two cars (both made more then 300K) and my brother right now has fleet of VW's in his business with 10 cars running 1.9 PD engine. They all use 5W30 oils and are well over projected life span.
VW 504.00/507.00 oils are strictly 0/5W30.

 

[veryHeavy]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Of course VW has issues. Apparently peopel here think that somehow Toyota is much more reliable car then VW, which is not true

In the Warranty Direct stats, Volkswagen has a failure rate of 1 in 75 and Toyota is 1 in 160..... putting VW near-dead last while Toyota is #2. People don't just "think" Toyota is more reliable..... the data proves it.

The problem with some of ye is you fall-in-love with Volkswagen (or toyota) as if they are your favorite sportsteam (and then defend them as if they are a beloved girlfriend)!

The reality is these car companies think of you exactly the same way as a Vegas casino:
A wallet to be picked.

 

[veryHeavy]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
So, no my friend, Toyota and Honda in the U.S. do not have anything to do with European versions

What nonsense. Prius is sold in both US and UK. Camry Hybrid is sold both US and UK.

The 2000-06 Honda Insight was sold both US and UK. The Fit Hybrid was UK only but it used the exact-same engine as the U.S. Civic and CRZ and Insight Hybrid (which is what I have been talking about: ENGINE reliability).

Ford Fusion in US is called "Mondeo" in UK but still the same car. Fiesta and Focus are also sold both US and UK.

Volkswagen Beetle, Golf, Jetta, Passat TDIs and TSIs are same in US and UK.

and on and on and on.
You are trying to make it sound like US/UK do not overlap.
The reality is these two countries share the same engines across 90% of the cars. If a UK version of ____ engine is poo, then the US version will be poo too, because it is the same engine.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
Originally Posted By: edyvw
So, no my friend, Toyota and Honda in the U.S. do not have anything to do with European versions

What nonsense. Prius is sold in both US and UK. Camry Hybrid is sold both US and UK.

The 2000-06 Honda Insight was sold both US and UK. The Fit Hybrid was UK only but it used the exact-same engine as the U.S. Civic and CRZ and Insight Hybrid (which is what I have been talking about: ENGINE reliability).

Ford Fusion in US is called "Mondeo" in UK but still the same car. Fiesta and Focus are also sold both US and UK.

Volkswagen Beetle, Golf, Jetta, Passat TDIs and TSIs are same in US and UK.

and on and on and on.
You are trying to make it sound like US/UK do not overlap.
The reality is these two countries share the same engines across 90% of the cars. If a UK version of ____ engine is poo, then the US version will be poo too, because it is the same engine.





You have SOME, very small number of models that are shared between the U.S. and UK. Fit and Prius being some (although prius is not playing important role in the Uk like in the U.S.).
However, mainstream models are different, they come with different engines. Honda CR-V in Europe is sold mainly with 1.6 CDTI engine, while Toyota Avensis is sold with 2.0 D-4D engine bought from BMW. Models that are shared have different brakes, suspension is stiffened and for sure do not come with POS All Season tires, which is "privilege" only the U.S. customers "enjoy." Highlander is absent from Europe, Land Cruiser comes with V8 engines, but is almost exclusively sold with 3.0 D-4D engine. RAV4 is also sold in 99% of cases withs tck shift and diesel engine (BMW).
As for Ford, this is first model of Mondeo that found its way to the U.S. Mondeo is present in Europe since 1994, and Fusion before this current model did not have anything in common with previous generation of Mondeo (Mazda 6 had).
After 2008 crisis FORD decided that Fusion will be developed by European branch not the U.S. branch.

 

[Y_K]

Honda Data Example

Another Honda Data Aggregate

Some CR-V Links (US Sales at the bottom)

2014 BMW - Toyota Diesel Cooperation News

So, where's VW superiority fit in there?

 

[Y_K]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Land Cruiser comes with V8 engines, but is almost exclusively sold with 3.0 D-4D engine.

Can you decipher that, please? I had 1VD-FTV in Oz, and was 4461 cc or 272 cu inch 8-cylinder motor. Never heard of 3.0 version.

 

[Silk]

Originally Posted By: Y_K

Can you decipher that, please?


1KD-FTV

There is a far greater range of Japanese vehicles available to the rest of the world.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
So, buy DIY or taking to trusted Indy, you save a lot! Sometimes it is 400%, sometimes more then 400%, sometimes 50%, but you get the point.


I'm still struggling with the 400% decrease. Now it can be more than a 400% decrease??

Must be the new math

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
Originally Posted By: edyvw
504.00/507.00 can be used in 505.01 applications, except that PD engines love heavy Euro oils (5W40), which 504.00/507.00 is not and cannot be.

507.00 coils are not available in 5W-40 grade?

The reason PD engines like a heavy grade is because VW engineers screwed-up the lubrication of the camshaft, causing premature wear and eventual failure. (Yet another example of VW's poor engine reliability.)



I always liked to joke that I had a defective cam in my PD, as it never failed. Was fine after 314kmiles. The followers were starting to streak, and some said they needed replacement; but I didn't think it was that bad. Mine was an early 2004 so sometimes I wonder if my cam got an extra hardening step that later ones didn't.

*

I figure, I got my money's worth out of that car; I bought it expecting it to go 250k without a problem. Went just shy of that--a flywheel of all things failed at 249k. I also bought it expecting it to go 300k--but with repairs. It did that, needing a turbo and an electric fuel pump (along with other minor repairs) in the 250's. Basically hit the 10c/mile cost I wanted, for depreciation and repairs. Not bad.

Got rid of it as I didn't want to deal with having to find VW specialists any more. I failed to realize how much stress that would be. I was not in a position to debug engine problems, and I didn't want to have to deal with knowing where all the "good" shops were--and heaven forbid I go on a long trip only to have it break. Couldn't trust it, couldn't trust VW shops, so off it went.

 

[Y_K]

Originally Posted By: Silk
1KD-FTV

There is a far greater range of Japanese vehicles available to the rest of the world.


But does Toyota Land Cruiser use it? I've seen it only in a Prado, which is not a Land Cruiser. A Kiwi friend in Nelson had that one and switched to petrol Land Cruiser for a 'a better pep' in his words.
None of the 'real' Land Cruiser, not even the immortal J70 has that engine. That's for a Hilux and other featherweights. Although, in Balkans they can do anything, like in Bolivia.

 

[Y_K]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
I'm still struggling with the 400% decrease. Now it can be more than a 400% decrease??

Must be the new math

There is hyperbolic geometry, and we are witnessing the breakthrough - the dawn of hyperbolic arithmetic.

I have recently observed two four-hundred-percenters putting an AC belt in a beamer without that special tool. Fantastic exercise in multiculturalism: the number of creative and colorful expletives and the number of languages they used was remarkable. But they saved a lot of money, while losing a lot of time, of course. Four hands were not enough, so I joined in and we prevailed.

 

[RooflessVW]

Originally Posted By: Y_K
I have recently observed two four-hundred-percenters putting an AC belt in a beamer without that special tool. Fantastic exercise in multiculturalism: the number of creative and colorful expletives and the number of languages they used was remarkable. But they saved a lot of money, while losing a lot of time, of course. Four hands were not enough, so I joined in and we prevailed.


Which special tool is that? A 17mm socket? Or was it the ultra-rare T60 socket that was required?

 

[Nick1994]

There's VWs all over Europe.

I wonder if the German made ones are a lot better than the made in Mexico ones here?

 

[Y_K]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
There's VWs all over Europe.

I wonder if the German made ones are a lot better than the made in Mexico ones here?


Could be. Another factor is the prevalence of good service in Europe: from top end all the way to coop garages and rental service space, well eqipped, etc. Yet another factor: once you get a hang of different engineering, things start making sense big time.

 

[veryHeavy]

Europe does have better-quality diesel (cetane 50 minimum).

The European gasoline was better prior to 2008, but now U.S. specs have finally caught-up to EU specs.

 

[Matagonka]

I still wouldn't buy a VW. Maintenance cost is just too high.

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
I'm still struggling with the 400% decrease. Now it can be more than a 400% decrease??

Must be the new math

What don't you understand? Let me quote edyvw's entire post for you since for whatever reason you left out the MATH.. *I even mentioned an example in my OP.

Originally Posted By: edyvw

Front brakes in my local BMW are $900 with labor.
Textar pads (OEM supplier) online are $76, and two Brembo rotors are $180
Brake fluid change is $175. ATE TYP200 fluid is $18 for liter, and you need one time investment of $45 for vacuum pump.
Fluid change in transmission is $1500 in local BMW. 7 liters of ZF6 fluid is needed, 7X$25= 175. They do not change filter (integrated in the pan) which is OEM BMW $300, while ZF made (manufacturer of transmission) is $98 on Amazon. My Indy is charging $170 for labor for pan +fluid, so 175+98+170= $443 (again BMW does not consider pan necessary to change, but pan would be $300+1500=1800 plus additional price for labor to take out pan).
However, best example. BMW charges oil change for diesel $90 here, but $250 for DEF+oil. 1.5 liter of DEF in BMW is $15. So instead of filling DEF in BMW, you go to local Wal Mart and you get 2.5 gallons of Peak DEF for $8, +Mobil1 5W30 ESP is sometimes on sale in NAPA for $5.99 a liter or Valvoline 5W40 MST goes for $4.99 a quart. OEM filter in BMW is $17.
So, buy DIY or taking to trusted Indy, you save a lot! Sometimes it is 400%, sometimes more then 400%, sometimes 50%, but you get the point.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What don't you understand? Let me quote edyvw's entire post for you since for whatever reason you left out the MATH.. *I even mentioned an example in my OP.


Front brakes in my local BMW are $900 with labor. Textar pads (OEM supplier) online are $76, and two Brembo rotors are $180

(total $256), Approx. 72% reduction

Brake fluid change is $175. ATE TYP200 fluid is $18 for liter

Approx. 90% reduction (for one liter)

Fluid change in transmission is $1500 in local BMW. 7 liters of ZF6 fluid is needed, 7X$25= 175.

Approx. 88% reduction

The last one is too vague to figure out.

How about you show me now how you have a 400% reduction?

 

[jeepman3071]

Originally Posted By: kschachn

How about you show me now how you have a 400% reduction?


I think everyone on this entire board knows that 400% was an exaggeration to illustrate a point.

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What don't you understand? Let me quote edyvw's entire post for you since for whatever reason you left out the MATH.. *I even mentioned an example in my OP.


Front brakes in my local BMW are $900 with labor. Textar pads (OEM supplier) online are $76, and two Brembo rotors are $180

(total $256), Approx. 72% reduction

Brake fluid change is $175. ATE TYP200 fluid is $18 for liter

Approx. 90% reduction (for one liter)

Fluid change in transmission is $1500 in local BMW. 7 liters of ZF6 fluid is needed, 7X$25= 175.

Approx. 88% reduction

The last one is too vague to figure out.

How about you show me now how you have a 400% reduction?


Dealer cost / actual cost?

*How about ~1/4th the cost. Percentages arent my strong suit.

My original point does stand however that one can save a decent amount of cash simply by DIY'ing.