Originally Posted by TheIceStormof06
Originally Posted by jfrankh
Originally Posted by TheIceStormof06
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
It's no secret that higher saps generally has higher carbon deposits. I'm not going to say you're going to have issues in 30k, but it's pretty much assured you will have more carbon buildup, soot on the exhaust, etc.
My evidence is anecdotal but I drove two cars that used 502 oils for combined eleven years. They always had soot on the exhaust tips, and the second car I kept long enough to have to pull the intake once and do a carbon cleaning. I now have had a car that uses 504 oil for two years, the exhaust tips are far cleaner. At this point with low sulfur fuel pretty much everywhere other than saving a few bucks every OCI, there is just about no reason to use 502 oil.
Thanks Jim. Please scream this from the rooftops to kschahn!!! The 2018 had different clearances and slightly different emissions. 502.00 is not recommended for the 2019s at all! I read they even changed the emissions systems for ‘19/‘20s. As for me, I rather not have to clean/remove carbon from my engine so I'm going to stay with the 0w-30 504.00. And what your saying is not anedotal, my oils is still golden brown after 7.5k on 87pump.
I don't have a local VW dealership, I live in the sticks, but I called the closest one to me today. I spoke to the service manager who said they would fill my 19' Atlas with 5W-30, I then spoke to the parts guy, who I gave my VIN # to and he said that they would only fill it with Castrol Edge 0W-30. No where under my hood or in my book which is a 19' does it say to use VW 504. The dealership told me to use VW 502. Where did you get the information that 19's shouldn't use 502?
Understandable. There's so much confusion on this b/c VW hasn't sent our a TSB to clarify. The earlier ones were able to use 502. In 2019 and later the tolerances were changes and the 0W-30 was approved for use. On all 2019-current, it is printed 504.00 only. I can take a picture of the hood sticker if you need me to. Also, the manual states 504.00 only, and if you need to put more than a half a quart of makeup oil out of grade/cert, to change the oilman soon as possible(paraphrasing there). Also, the Mobil oil selector only shows 504.00. Also, I called Mobil and spoke to their Tier 2 and they confirmed 504.00 0w-30.
If the delearship is saying they are using Castrol in 0w-30, make sure it's the Castrol professional LL-IV in 504.00 and not the regular Castrol Edge.
What year is your Atlas? What does Mobil1 oil selector say?
The fact that your service manager said one thing but when you min out the vin# the grade is correct tells you there was a mid-year change and there is something really specific about this whole deal. I will VW would publish a release or TSB. I will also say they will start stocking the Mobil 1 VW branded once they exhaust current supply. I posted the correct part number the Atlas requires and took pictures of the bottles in another thread.
Mine is a 2019 and in the book and under the hood it says 502.00. My book says that in an emergency you can use 504.00. The parts guy at the dealership said specifically Castrol Edge 0W-30 502.00 and I gave him my VIN #. I don't know why I would trust the Mobil 1 oil selector over the dealership because yes the Mobil 1 site says to use there 0W-30 that is 504.00 approved. I never imagined this post would blow up like this. Who knew it would be this much ambiguity with oil! LOL
The dealership did confirm what was mentioned earlier in this post that VW was dropping Castrol and moving to Mobil so mabye Mobil doesn't have a 0W-30 that is 502 approved and thats why they push people to the other?
Originally Posted by jfrankh
Originally Posted by TheIceStormof06
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
It's no secret that higher saps generally has higher carbon deposits. I'm not going to say you're going to have issues in 30k, but it's pretty much assured you will have more carbon buildup, soot on the exhaust, etc.
My evidence is anecdotal but I drove two cars that used 502 oils for combined eleven years. They always had soot on the exhaust tips, and the second car I kept long enough to have to pull the intake once and do a carbon cleaning. I now have had a car that uses 504 oil for two years, the exhaust tips are far cleaner. At this point with low sulfur fuel pretty much everywhere other than saving a few bucks every OCI, there is just about no reason to use 502 oil.
Thanks Jim. Please scream this from the rooftops to kschahn!!! The 2018 had different clearances and slightly different emissions. 502.00 is not recommended for the 2019s at all! I read they even changed the emissions systems for ‘19/‘20s. As for me, I rather not have to clean/remove carbon from my engine so I'm going to stay with the 0w-30 504.00. And what your saying is not anedotal, my oils is still golden brown after 7.5k on 87pump.
I don't have a local VW dealership, I live in the sticks, but I called the closest one to me today. I spoke to the service manager who said they would fill my 19' Atlas with 5W-30, I then spoke to the parts guy, who I gave my VIN # to and he said that they would only fill it with Castrol Edge 0W-30. No where under my hood or in my book which is a 19' does it say to use VW 504. The dealership told me to use VW 502. Where did you get the information that 19's shouldn't use 502?
Understandable. There's so much confusion on this b/c VW hasn't sent our a TSB to clarify. The earlier ones were able to use 502. In 2019 and later the tolerances were changes and the 0W-30 was approved for use. On all 2019-current, it is printed 504.00 only. I can take a picture of the hood sticker if you need me to. Also, the manual states 504.00 only, and if you need to put more than a half a quart of makeup oil out of grade/cert, to change the oilman soon as possible(paraphrasing there). Also, the Mobil oil selector only shows 504.00. Also, I called Mobil and spoke to their Tier 2 and they confirmed 504.00 0w-30.
If the delearship is saying they are using Castrol in 0w-30, make sure it's the Castrol professional LL-IV in 504.00 and not the regular Castrol Edge.
What year is your Atlas? What does Mobil1 oil selector say?
The fact that your service manager said one thing but when you min out the vin# the grade is correct tells you there was a mid-year change and there is something really specific about this whole deal. I will VW would publish a release or TSB. I will also say they will start stocking the Mobil 1 VW branded once they exhaust current supply. I posted the correct part number the Atlas requires and took pictures of the bottles in another thread.
Mine is a 2019 and in the book and under the hood it says 502.00. My book says that in an emergency you can use 504.00. The parts guy at the dealership said specifically Castrol Edge 0W-30 502.00 and I gave him my VIN #. I don't know why I would trust the Mobil 1 oil selector over the dealership because yes the Mobil 1 site says to use there 0W-30 that is 504.00 approved. I never imagined this post would blow up like this. Who knew it would be this much ambiguity with oil! LOL
The dealership did confirm what was mentioned earlier in this post that VW was dropping Castrol and moving to Mobil so mabye Mobil doesn't have a 0W-30 that is 502 approved and thats why they push people to the other?
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