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I'm highly suspect of the applicability of that list of TSB's to *only* the Cavalier:

08-07-30-017 APR 08 A/T - 4L60, Revised Sprag/Forward Clutch Hub

When did a Cavalier get a 4L60 transmission? Unless I missed a seriously bad-[censored] special edition RWD version, never.
 
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
All cars must pass the govt. crash tests. Let's try running an F-250 into an Audi and see which one holds up better.
Lets run both of them into a wall @ 30 mph or flip them over @ 50 mph and see which one you walk away from.

I've seen some F150/F250 extended cabs which have had accidents and the people inside did not do too well.

Not pretty at all, the cab just folds up. Worst of ANY truck out there.
 
84159 JUL 84 Power Antenna Mast - Lubrication

What? The power antenna on a 1984 Cavalier doesn't self lubricate? What a pos. No wonder GM is going under, they haven't figured out how to self lube their power antenna in the past 25 years.

I'll bet the power antenna on a 1984 Audi self lubricates.
 
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
AudiJunkie - your post on the Cavalier TSB's is misleading. Most of just informational and nothing to do with the car's reliability. You just posted them all to make it look bad and that is pathetic. While I am in no way saying that that model and year of GM car was stellar in anyway, but it sure isn't as bad as you tried to paint it.


Yep. I've read many of those TSBs, and I can confirm that many of them are informational (and contain pretty useful information, much of which applies to other automaker's products too).
 
http://www.wheels.ca/article/29016


Forget-me-Chevys Corsica, Beretta two of GM's lesser stars
Chevrolet Main Page


Apr 28, 2001

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By Mark Toljagic
General Motors has produced some innovative and memorable cars over the years. The Chevrolet Corsica and its coupe variant, the Beretta, are not among them.

The two debuted in early 1987 as 1988 models, destined to fill the gap between the Cavalier econobox and the Celebrity (Lumina) family sedan.

Said to have been the product of the most extensive market research in Chevy's history, the Corsica and Beretta were touted as import fighters, employing lessons learned from a GM joint venture with Toyota.

With fewer body seams, no end caps, extensive use of two-sided galvanized steel and fewer parts, the cars were easier to assemble.

To keep costs down and improve reliability, product planners stuck to familiar corporate drivetrains. The cars' humdrum front-drive strut suspension and twist-beam rear axle, for instance, were copied from the Cavalier.

The pair wore well-tailored coachwork, designs that would not only endure unchanged until the end of production in 1996, but also provide the styling cues for a number of GM products that would follow.

The contemporary, but bland cabin was less successful. Said one owner on the Internet of his car: "Every soft part has distorted, cracked, crumbled, blistered, sagged, popped, bloated and warped so a trip to the grocery store yields five bags of groceries and four bags of interior pieces." CONFIGURATION The Corsica was available as a four-door sedan and, briefly, starting in 1989, as a five-door hatchback. The Beretta was the two-door coupe version, using the identical wheelbase.

To appease Canadian Pontiac dealers who wanted a low-cost vehicle to sell, GM supplied them with the Pontiac-badged Tempest sedan.

Initially, the cars were powered by the Cavalier's 90-hp. 2.0 L four-cylinder or the automaker's ubiquitous 2.8 L V6, good for 125 hp and 160 lb-ft of torque. A five-speed manual or three-speed automatic transmission was available with each.

For 1990, both engines grew in displacement (to 2.2 L and 3.1 L, respectively) and horsepower (95 and 140). Over the years, the four-cylinder Cavalier engine continued to receive enhancements, eventually netting 120 hp. The automatic gained a gear.

Performance versions of the coupe relied on the notorious talents of the General's 180-hp Quad 4 four-banger. In this instance, "four-banger" is an appropriate term: there was nothing subtle about this raucous engine.

PERFORMANCE The 1988 V6-equipped Beretta could reach highway velocity in nine seconds flat, thanks, in part, to the smooth-shifting Getrag manual transmission. Add about a second for the automatic and two-tenths of a second for the slightly heavier Corsica.

The four-cylinder engine lifted from the Cavalier was not entirely happy in the heavier sedan and coupe. Running rough and noisy, it provided acceleration times in the 11- to 12-second range, depending on the equipment.

Corsica and Beretta felt unremarkable on the road. As economy-grade rental and fleet vehicles, the base cars rode like most GM products: soft and a little floaty.

On the other hand, the GT and LT performance models benefited from better suspension pieces and calibration that produced lateral grip as high as 0.81-- very good for a front-driver.

Braking was ho-hum(62 metres from 112 km/h to 0). Dry braking improved marginally when anti-lock brakes became standard in 1992.

WHAT OWNERS REPORTED No other car has been the subject of so many complaints about delamination on the Internet. "Because of the horrible-looking paint peeling and falling off, this car is the greatest advertisement Ford has got," wrote a frustrated owner of his Corsica.

Most alarming, according to owners, is that peeling clear coat and paint were endemic to every year that the Corsica and Beretta were in production. It suggests that, over nine years, General Motors did not do enough to rectify the problem.

Corsica/Beretta owners generally fall into two camps: those who like their cars anyway, and those who despise them. Reader Andrew Chambers used to own a Beretta, but sold it a week after the warranty expired, fearing big repair bills based on the chronic problems that had surfaced.

Yet his wife drives a 1988 Tempest with 430,000 km on it.

"At nearly 300,000 km on the odometer, this car is probably the best bargain of all the vehicles our family has owned," wrote Allister D'Silva about a 1991 Tempest.

Michael Vandenboom describes his 1994 Corsica as the worst car he has ever owned, particularly for its fuel injectors, which are constantly clogging.

The litany of component failures is long, involving such expensive items as head gaskets, air conditioning, steering racks, alternators, motor mounts, gas lines, computers and brake rotors.


http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4181201&postid=54142425
 
Poor Crash Rating at IIHS

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=45

Chevrolet Cavalier
1995-2005 models
results also apply to: 1995-2002 Pontiac Sunfire

FRONTAL OFFSET TEST
OVERALL EVALUATION:

Structure/safety cage Injury measures Restraints/dummy kinematics
Head/neck Chest Leg/foot, left Leg/foot, right


Important: Frontal crash test ratings can be compared only among vehicles of similar weight.

Test details:
The Chevrolet Cavalier and the Pontiac Sunfire were redesigned for the 1995 model year. The Sunfire sedan was dropped after the 2002 model year, and the Cavalier was dropped after the 2005 model year.

Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement wasn't well controlled. The dummy rotated around the left side of the airbag and, during rebound, the right rear of the dummy's head hit the window sill, denting it. Then the dummy's head hit the B-pillar.

Injury measures — Measures taken from the neck, chest, and right leg indicate low risk of injuries to these body regions in a crash of this severity. A high head acceleration occurred when the dummy's head hit the window sill, indicating that injuries to the head would be possible. Forces on the left tibia indicate that injuries to the lower leg would be likely. Head acceleration from the B-pillar hit was low.

Post-crash damage shot. Larger photo
The dummy's position in relation to the steering wheel and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space wasn't maintained well. Larger photo
Dummy movement wasn't well controlled during the crash test. Smeared greasepaint indicates where the dummy's head hit the window sill, producing a high head acceleration. Larger photo
The dummy's legs finished trapped by footwell intrusion. Larger photo


Good Crash Raing for the VW..

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=92

Volkswagen Passat
1998-2005 models
FRONTAL OFFSET TEST
OVERALL EVALUATION:

Structure/safety cage Injury measures Restraints/dummy kinematics
Head/neck Chest Leg/foot, left Leg/foot, right


Important: Frontal crash test ratings can be compared only among vehicles of similar weight.

Test details:
The Volkswagen Passat was redesigned for the 1998 model year.

Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement was reasonably well controlled. After the dummy moved forward into the airbag, its head moved toward the window sill as floor deformation tipped the driver seat toward the door.

Injury measures — Measures taken from the dummy indicate a low risk of any significant injuries in a crash of this severity.

Left to right:

Action shot taken during the frontal offset crash test. Larger photo
Despite some bending of the roof rail, the driver's survival space was maintained well. Larger photo
A button on the side of the head restraint is for locking in position after the restraint has been adjusted upward. This design improvement was introduced during the 1998 model year. Still, the head restraint is marginal. Larger photo
Minimal damage occurred in the most demanding bumper test, a 5 mph rear-into-pole impact. Larger photo
 
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
All cars must pass the govt. crash tests. Let's try running an F-250 into an Audi and see which one holds up better.
Lets run both of them into a wall @ 30 mph or flip them over @ 50 mph and see which one you walk away from.

I've seen some F150/F250 extended cabs which have had accidents and the people inside did not do too well.

Not pretty at all, the cab just folds up. Worst of ANY truck out there.



I'll partially agree with you there. I have seen a couple F-trucks flipped over, and the windshield pillars aren't strong enough to support the roof. I have seen 2 Sequoia SUVs flipped over and one Pathfinder (the previous body style, not the new one) and the roof completely caved in, both front and back. Flat with the top of the doors. All cars have their weaknesses. The regular cab trucks appear to hold up better because of the shorter distance between the roof and the rear part of the cab.
 
I love finger pointing posts...


It doesn't make a differance what you drive, it might have problems...that doesn't stop for any make or model.


I've seen a Jetta hit 250k, a Cavalier hit 300k, and a Camry die off at 61k. These things happen.
 
Some one has too much time on their hands.

Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1997 Chevrolet Cavalier L4-2.2L VIN 4
JANUARY 2003 Recall - Steering Gear Lower Pinion Bearing Separation
OCTOBER 2002 Recall - Ignition Switch Fire Hazard
AUGUST 1998 Recall - Inadvertent Air Bag Deployment

Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1997 Chevrolet Cavalier L4-2.2L VIN 4
MAY 2000 Recall - Corrosion/Moisture Entering the PCM

Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1997 Chevrolet Cavalier L4-2.2L VIN 4
APRIL 2007 Tires - Proper Inflation Pressure Information
APRIL 2007 Body - Bumps or Rust Colored Spots in Paint
APRIL 2007 Body - Polypropylene Energy Absorber Replacement
APRIL 2007 Charging System - Low Voltage Display/Low/Dead Battery
APRIL 2007 Navigation System - Replacement Navigation Discs
APRIL 2007 Engine - Sealant Usage/procedures
APRIL 2007 A/T - Dexron®-VI(R) Fluid Availability
MARCH 2007 Instruments - Reduced PRNDL Display Visibility
MARCH 2007 SRS - Front Passenger Seat Alteration Precautions
FEBRUARY 2007 Steering - Clunk Felt/Heard From Steering Column
FEBRUARY 2007 Wheels/Tires - `Upsized` Wheel & Tire Information
FEBRUARY 2007 Engine, A/T - Shift/Driveability Concerns/MIL ON
JANUARY 2007 Locks - Key Code Securtiy Rules & Information
JANUARY 2007 Body - Hem Flange Repair
JANUARY 2007 Tires - Radial Force Variation (RFV) Information
JANUARY 2007 A/T - Grinding/Growling In PARK On An Incline
DECEMBER 2006 Restraints - Availability of Seat Belt Extenders
DECEMBER 2006 OnStar - Analog-Only Systems Information
NOVEMBER 2006 Warranty - Claims Submission
NOVEMBER 2006 Engine - Unnecessary Flushing Services
NOVEMBER 2006 Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline
NOVEMBER 2006 Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Usage
NOVEMBER 2006 M/T - Hydraulic Clutch Bleeding Procedure Improvement
OCTOBER 2006 A/T - Fluid Leaking From Vent
OCTOBER 2006 Lighting - Replacement Guidelines for Lamp Condensation
OCTOBER 2006 Power Steering - Diagnostic Tips
OCTOBER 2006 Emissions - OBDII I/M Readiness Testing
OCTOBER 2006 Body - Metal Panel Adhesive Bonding Information
OCTOBER 2006 Interior - Eliminating Unwanted Odors
OCTOBER 2006 Tires - Tread Puncture Repair Procedures
SEPTEMBER 2006 Wheel Alignment - Recommendations/Requirements
SEPTEMBER 2006 Wheels - Pitting/Brake Dust On Chrome Wheels
SEPTEMBER 2006 Fuel System - GM Fuel System Treatment Plus(R)
SEPTEMBER 2006 Body - Distortion On Outer Glass Surfaces
SEPTEMBER 2006 Body - Exterior Emblem Discoloration/Peeling/Blistering
SEPTEMBER 2006 Wheels - Changing Procedures/Precautions
AUGUST 2006 Cooling System - DEXCOOL(R) Leak Detection Dye
AUGUST 2006 M/T - Normal Operating Characteristics
AUGUST 2006 Tires - Original Equipment Tire Characteristics
AUGUST 2006 Cooling System - Coolant Recycling Information
AUGUST 2006 Engine Controls - MIL Function During I/M Testing
AUGUST 2006 Wheels Chrome Wheel Chemical Staining/Pitting/Corrosion
JULY 2006 Vehicle - Recreational (Dinghy) Towing Information
JULY 2006 A/C - Contaminated R134A Refrigerant
JULY 2006 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Information
JUNE 2006 Windshield Wipers - Performance/Cleaning and Maintenance
JUNE 2006 Wheels - Aluminum Wheel Refinishing Recommendations
JUNE 2006 A/T - Dexron®(R) VI Fluid Availability
JUNE 2006 A/T - Clunk When Shifting From PARK/DRIVE/REVERSE
MAY 2006 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Recommendations
MAY 2006 A/T - Shift Lock Control Feature Function
MAY 2006 Electrical - Instrument Panel & General Wiring Repair
APRIL 2006 Audio System - Portable Audio Equipment Noise
APRIL 2006 Wheels/Tires - Slow Leaks From Aluminum Wheels
MARCH 2006 Body - Urethane Adhesives for Glass Applications
MARCH 2006 A/C - High Pitched Noise Heard When Compressor Engaged
MARCH 2006 Battery, Charging System - Electrical Diagnostics
MARCH 2006 Electrical - Battery Charging Tips
MARCH 2006 Tires/Wheels - Wheel Weight Usage Precautions
FEBRUARY 2006 Accessories - DTC`s P0300, P1380, P1381
FEBRUARY 2006 A/T - Fluid Cooler Flushing
JANUARY 2006 Steering - BULLETIN 04-02-35-004D CANCELLATION
JANUARY 2006 Engine - Surface Conditioning Disc Usage Prohibition
JANUARY 2006 A/T - 4T65-E Fluid Leaks From Reverse Servo Cover
JANUARY 2006 Keyless Entry - Operational Characteristics
JANUARY 2006 Fuel System - Fuel Injector Maintenance Cleaning
DECEMBER 2005 Tires/Wheels - Nitrogen Gas Usage for Filling Tires
NOVEMBER 2005 Body - Paint-Less Dent Repair Recommendations
NOVEMBER 2005 A/C - New PAG Oil
OCTOBER 2005 Engine/Fuel System - Oil/Fuel Additive Recommendations
OCTOBER 2005 A/T - Diagnosing Fluid Leaks
OCTOBER 2005 A/T - Torque Converter Replacement
AUGUST 2005 Electrical - Harness Connection Inspection
JUNE 2005 A/C - Broken Rear Window Defogger Grid Detection
APRIL 2005 OnStar(R) - Cellular Antenna Replacement Parts
APRIL 2005 Restraints - Child Seat Top Teather Attachment Kits
MARCH 2005 Brakes - Wheel Cylinder Inspection Guidelines
MARCH 2005 OnStar(R) - Dealer Kits No Longer Available
MARCH 2005 OnStar(R)/Cell Phone - Integration
MARCH 2005 Body/Instruments - L/H Breakaway Mirror Inoperative
FEBRUARY 2005 Cooling System - Aluminum Radiator/Heater Core Info.
FEBRUARY 2005 Instruments - GPS System Performance Degradation
FEBRUARY 2005 Restraints - Air Bag System Diagnostics
DECEMBER 2004 A/T - 4L60/65E No Reverse/2nd or 4th Gear
OCTOBER 2004 Lighting - Damage To Polycarbonate Headlamp Lenses
SEPTEMBER 2004 A/C - R-134a System Flushing Procedures
JULY 2004 Wheels - Plastic Wheel Nut Covers Loose/Missing
JULY 2004 Battery - Parasitic Drain
JUNE 2004 Fuel - Top Tier Detergent Gasoline Information
JUNE 2004 Engine - New Long Block Installation Precaution
APRIL 2004 Engine - Serpentine Drive Belt Wear Information
FEBRUARY 2004 A/T - 4L65E, 4L60E, 4L60, 200-4R Oil Pump Spring
NOVEMBER 2003 A/T - Shift Flare/DTC`s Set/SES Lamp ON
OCTOBER 2003 A/C - Unnecessary Compressor Replacement
SEPTEMBER 2003 Body - Mirror Vibrates At Highway Speeds
JULY 2003 A/C - Catastrophic Compressor Failure Debris Removal
JUNE 2003 A/T - Oil Cooler Flushing Frequently Asked Questions
APRIL 2003 Body - Replacement Outside Rearview Mirror Glass
MARCH 2003 A/C - Automatic A/C Functional Description
MARCH 2003 A/C - System Sealers/Leak Detection Guidelines
MARCH 2003 A/T - 4T40-E/4T45-T Engineering Changes
MARCH 2003 Brakes - Brake Rotor Lateral Runout Correction
JANUARY 2003 Body - Weatherstrip Maintenance
DECEMBER 2002 A/T - 4T45E Engineering Changes/Overhaul Revisions
JUNE 2002 A/T - Serial Number/Site Code Locations/Identification
JUNE 2002 Emissions - OBD II Retrofit Program
JUNE 2002 Engine - Identification Information
MAY 2002 Suspension (Front) - Torque Specification Update
MARCH 2002 Engine - New Prelube Tool
FEBRUARY 2002 Warranty - Parts Return Program Explained
DECEMBER 2001 Tires - Sidewall Damage
NOVEMBER 2001 EVAP System - Special Tool Usage
NOVEMBER 2001 Ignition Lock Cylinder - Revised Replacement Procedure
OCTOBER 2001 A/T - Core Return Product Feedback Form
OCTOBER 2001 EVAP System - Monitor Strategy
SEPTEMBER 2001 RKE Transmitter - Correct Use of Labor Operation R4490
JUNE 2001 Diagnostic Worksheet - Usage
JUNE 2001 Instrument Panel Cluster - Revised Replacement
JUNE 2001 Seat Belt System - Collision Replacement Guidelines
MAY 2001 A/C - Odor Emission in Hot Weather
MAY 2001 Key/Key Number/Security Chip - Replacement
MAY 2001 Tires - Bumper To Bumper Warranty Coverage
APRIL 2001 A/T - Service Procedure Changes
APRIL 2001 Radio Display - Error Code Diagnosis/Repair
APRIL 2001 Special Tools - Power Steering System Analyzer
NOVEMBER 2000 Suspension - Chassis Lubrication Importance
SEPTEMBER 2000 A/C Performance/Leaks - Diagnostic Procedure
AUGUST 2000 Cross Line - Warranty Information
JUNE 2000 Instrument Panel - Rattle or Squeak/Door Panel Scratched
JUNE 2000 PCM - Returned Product Feedback Program
MAY 2000 A/C - Refrigerant Recovery/Recharge Equipment
MAY 2000 Battery - Testing and Replacement
MAY 2000 Brake Fluid - Level & Filling Recommendations
MAY 2000 EVAP System - Service of Connectors
APRIL 2000 Rear Drum Brakes - Sticking/Won`t Release
APRIL 2000 Warranty - GM Dealer Parts Procurement
JANUARY 2000 Air Bag (SIR) On-Off Switch Kits, New Parts and Service
JANUARY 2000 Trap Resistant Trunk Kit - Function/Installation
DECEMBER 1999 Battery - Testing & Replacement
NOVEMBER 1999 Accessory Receptacle/Cigar Lighter - Inoperative
NOVEMBER 1999 IP Dimmer Control - Proper Setting
NOVEMBER 1999 PROM - Powertrain Control Module Reprogramming
OCTOBER 1999 A/T - New Solenoid Testing Kit
OCTOBER 1999 Cooling - Radiator Repair/Replacement Guidelines
OCTOBER 1999 Door - Rattles When Closing
SEPTEMBER 1999 Engine/Transmission - Whine at 2800-3200 RPM
SEPTEMBER 1999 Manual Door Mirror (L/H) - Does Not Adjust With Lever
SEPTEMBER 1999 Warranty - Labor Time Guide Updates, 09/99
JUNE 1999 Warranty - OE Chrome Plated Aluminum Wheel ID
MAY 1999 Convertible Top - Water Leak at Front Header
MAY 1999 Seat Shoulder Belt (Front) - Plastic Cover Comes Loose
APRIL 1999 Front Bucket Seat - Material Bulge in Top Backside
APRIL 1999 Instrument Panel - Upper Surface Reflection
MARCH 1999 Battery - Insulator Replacement & Caution
MARCH 1999 Battery - Testing Equipment Explained
MARCH 1999 Interior - Rear Footwell Wet
MARCH 1999 SIR - Operating Vehicle with Warning Light On
DECEMBER 1998 Rear Compartment Lid Latch - Difficult to Unlock/Open
DECEMBER 1998 Warranty - Notice of Delayed Start Process
NOVEMBER 1998 Tools - Adjuster Locknut Wrench
NOVEMBER 1998 Tools - Power Steering Bleeder Adapter
NOVEMBER 1998 Vehicle - Temporary Changes to Techline ESI Applications
OCTOBER 1998 New Windshield/Glass Urethane Adhesive Caulking Kit
SEPTEMBER 1998 A/T - Revised Shift Speed and Line Pressure Tables
SEPTEMBER 1998 Crankcase Ventilation System - Revised Maintenance
SEPTEMBER 1998 Door - Rattle Noise When Glass is Lowered
SEPTEMBER 1998 Exhaust - Metallic Noise or Rap Heard on Cold Exhaust
SEPTEMBER 1998 PCM Connector - Information on New Service Kits
SEPTEMBER 1998 Speedometer - Determining Accuracy
AUGUST 1998 Convertible - Top Cover Shows Wear or Permanent Damage
AUGUST 1998 Entertainment Systems - Correct Labor Codes
AUGUST 1998 Header Weatherstrip - Revised Replacement Procedure
AUGUST 1998 Rear Lid Latch - Revised Procedure for Replacement
AUGUST 1998 Tools - Keyless Entry Transmitter Tester
AUGUST 1998 Warranty - Parts Warranty Special Claims B and C
JULY 1998 Radio Telephone/Mobile Radio - Install/Troubleshooting
JULY 1998 Warranty - Courtesy Transportation Guidelines
JUNE 1998 Battery - Weak, Discharged/Slow Starting/GEN or MIL On
JUNE 1998 Cruise Control - (W/Electro Stepper Mtr.) Diagnostics
JUNE 1998 Transaxle Cooler Line - Seal Installation Procedure
MAY 1998 Warranty - Request for Wholesale Authorization
MAY 1998 Warranty Inquiry System
APRIL 1998 Engine - Clattering Noise At Idle
APRIL 1998 Engine - Surface Conditioning Discs Precautions
APRIL 1998 Seat Belts - Latch Slides To Seat Belt Anchor Sleeve
MARCH 1998 ABS Indicator Lamp On, DTC 21,22,32 or 33 Set
MARCH 1998 Convertible Top - Waterleak Between Side Rail & Cover
MARCH 1998 Customer Concern Not Duplicated /Verified - Labor
MARCH 1998 Door Glass, Front - Use of Wrong Unit Causes Waterleak
MARCH 1998 Fuel Level Sensor - Replacement Procedure
MARCH 1998 Muffler - Thumping Noise in Park or Drive
MARCH 1998 Tools - Released for CS Generator Diagnosis
MARCH 1998 VIN Plate - Replacement Policy and Procedure
FEBRUARY 1998 A/T - Revised Final Drive Pinion End Play Check
FEBRUARY 1998 Fuel Injector - Use of Injector Test Adapters
FEBRUARY 1998 Seatback Striker, Rear - Add Remove/Install Procedure
FEBRUARY 1998 Warranty - GM Dealer Empowerment Program
FEBRUARY 1998 Warranty - New Vehicle/Replacement Battery
JANUARY 1998 Airbags - Frontal (SIR) ON-Off Switch Kits, Parts/Procs
JANUARY 1998 Brakes - Rear Brakes Drag/Heatup, Parking Brake Cables
JANUARY 1998 Brakes - Rotor & Hub Flange Cleaning Tool Revision
JANUARY 1998 Suspension - Shock Absorber/Strut Replacement Guidlines
JANUARY 1998 Warranty - Enhanced Sublet Repair Policy
JANUARY 1998 Warranty - Repair/Replace Policies & Procedures
DECEMBER 1997 A/T - Updated DTC`s P0742 & P1887, TCC Related
DECEMBER 1997 Exhaust System - Paint Peeling from Painted Muffler
DECEMBER 1997 Parts Expediting - Reimbursement Policy
DECEMBER 1997 Warranty - Rail Dust Removal & Chemical Spotting Labor
NOVEMBER 1997 A/C - PureGuard 2 Operating Alert
NOVEMBER 1997 Brakes - Rotor Warranty Service Procedure
NOVEMBER 1997 Instrument Clusters - Identification
NOVEMBER 1997 Labor - Revised Operation Z1241/Personal Property Damage
OCTOBER 1997 A/T - Cooler Flush Adapter Tools
OCTOBER 1997 A/T - Revised Procedure for TV Cable Adjustment
OCTOBER 1997 Engine Controls - Revised PCM Outputs Diagnostic Table
OCTOBER 1997 Interior - Waterleak Diagnostic Information Guide
OCTOBER 1997 Keyless Entry - Diagnostic Hints for Rolling Codes
OCTOBER 1997 Starting - Revised Procedures for Inop Ignition Cylinder
OCTOBER 1997 Trunk - Will Not Open When Using Remote Release Handle
OCTOBER 1997 Warranty - Labor Time Guide Addition
SEPTEMBER 1997 Brakes - Various Noises When Applying Brakes
SEPTEMBER 1997 Engine Controls - Revised Table PCM Controlled Generator
SEPTEMBER 1997 Tires - Replacement During Bumper to Bumper Warranty
AUGUST 1997 Brakes - ABS Light ON, DTC 46 & 86 (C1246 & C1286)
AUGUST 1997 Warranty - Guidelines for Claiming Windshield Replace
AUGUST 1997 Warranty - Guidelines for I/M 240 Labor
AUGUST 1997 Warranty - Guidelines for Using E0420 Wheel Replace
JULY 1997 Engine - Knock, Rattle, or Tap Noise
JULY 1997 Engine Controls - Revised DTC P0300 & No Start Chart
JULY 1997 Engine Controls - Revised Knock Sensor Data Table
JUNE 1997 Engine Controls - Revised DTC P0502, VSS Low Input
JUNE 1997 Paint - Basecoat/Clearcoat Paint Systems Specifications
MAY 1997 Cooling - Low Coolant Light On During Sustained Driving
MAY 1997 Engine Controls - Revised DTC P0705 PABC Data Table
MAY 1997 Engine Controls - Updated DTC P0440, P0442, P0446, P1441
MAY 1997 Instruments - New Diagnostic Tables For VSS Circuits
MAY 1997 Steering - Various Revised Tightening Specifications
MAY 1997 Windshield - Two-Part Urethane Adhesive For Installation
APRIL 1997 A/C - Tool And Equipment Maintenance
APRIL 1997 Convertible Top - Scuffed Interior Quarter Trim Panel
APRIL 1997 Engine Controls - Revised DTC P0401
APRIL 1997 Instruments - Fuel Gauge Responds Slowly After Fueling
APRIL 1997 Suspension - Rear Shock Noise In Trunk Area
APRIL 1997 Warranty - Labor Time Guide Update
APRIL 1997 Warranty - Required Claim Submission Procedures
APRIL 1997 Wipers - Revised Cleaning Of Wiper Drive Shaft Knurls
MARCH 1997 A/T - Fluid Level Checking And Fill Procedure Revised
MARCH 1997 M/T - Shift Cable Service Clip
MARCH 1997 Oxygen Sensor - Locations in Various Exhaust Systems
MARCH 1997 PROM - Reprogram Using Off Board Program Adapter
MARCH 1997 Radio - CLN Indicator ON
FEBRUARY 1997 A/C - Systems With R12 Or R134a Service Issue
FEBRUARY 1997 A/T - Delay Engagement into Drive After Cold Soak
FEBRUARY 1997 Body - Sealer Tape For Collision Repairs
FEBRUARY 1997 Emissions - Exhaust Rattle May Be Misdiagnosed As Cat
FEBRUARY 1997 Seats - Head Rest Removal/Install Procedure Revised
FEBRUARY 1997 Seats - Rattle/Squeak From Passenger Side Rear Seatback
JANUARY 1997 Axle Seal Area - Leak
JANUARY 1997 Battery - Parasitic Load Test
JANUARY 1997 Charging - Low Voltage Reading Or Dim Lights At Idle
JANUARY 1997 Compact Disc Players - CD Changer Loading Procedures
JANUARY 1997 Engine Controls - Revised DTC P1601 Serial Communication
JANUARY 1997 Interior Dome Light - Stays On All The Time
JANUARY 1997 Tire/Wheel and Propshaft - Revised Rotational Worksheet
JANUARY 1997 Warranty - Repair and Claims Procedures
DECEMBER 1996 Cooling System - Coolant Loss/Leakage/Lamp On/or Odor
DECEMBER 1996 EGR - Revised DTC P1404 (Closed Pintle Position) Table
DECEMBER 1996 Engine Controls - Clear DTC`s After PCM/VCM/EGR Service
DECEMBER 1996 Warranty - Claim Processing
NOVEMBER 1996 A/C - Diagnostic Charts Revisions
NOVEMBER 1996 A/C Compressor Seal Washer - Reference Chart
NOVEMBER 1996 Cruise Control - Speed Surge When Engaged
NOVEMBER 1996 Evaporative Emissions - System Check Revision
NOVEMBER 1996 Key Code - Information
NOVEMBER 1996 PCM - New Identification Label
NOVEMBER 1996 Radiator - Remove/Install Procedure Revision
NOVEMBER 1996 Strut Mount - Popping Noise Heard With Engine Movement
OCTOBER 1996 Audio - Procedure To Handle Customer Radio Concerns
OCTOBER 1996 Daytime Running Lights - Revised Diagnostic Chart
OCTOBER 1996 Electrical System - Component Locations Update
OCTOBER 1996 Tools - Fuel Line Quick Connect Remover Deleted
OCTOBER 1996 Warranty - Submission of OBD II Codes With Claims
SEPTEMBER 1996 A/T - Transaxle Stub Shaft Disengagement
SEPTEMBER 1996 Air Bag - Module Shipping/Return Procedure
SEPTEMBER 1996 Warranty - Corporate Parts Return Program Instructions
JUNE 1996 A/T Controls - Revised Text for all DTC Tables
JUNE 1996 Warranty - Goodwrench® Service Lifetime Service Guarantee
NOVEMBER 1988 Battery - Diagnosis and Charging
 
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
All cars must pass the govt. crash tests. Let's try running an F-250 into an Audi and see which one holds up better.
Lets run both of them into a wall @ 30 mph or flip them over @ 50 mph and see which one you walk away from.

I've seen some F150/F250 extended cabs which have had accidents and the people inside did not do too well.

Not pretty at all, the cab just folds up. Worst of ANY truck out there.



I'll partially agree with you there. I have seen a couple F-trucks flipped over, and the windshield pillars aren't strong enough to support the roof. I have seen 2 Sequoia SUVs flipped over and one Pathfinder (the previous body style, not the new one) and the roof completely caved in, both front and back. Flat with the top of the doors. All cars have their weaknesses. The regular cab trucks appear to hold up better because of the shorter distance between the roof and the rear part of the cab.


Pre-04 F-150 didn't have a fantastic frontal crash-test rating. The redesign for the '05 model year (excluding the "Heritage" version, which was old body style) scores the best of any 1/2 ton pick-up.

Prior to the "big truck" Super Duty look, they too had a similar front-end look on the F-250, and would likely have faired equally as poorly as the pre-04 F-150.

That being said, it still wouldn't prevent those vehicles, due to sheer mass, from doing extensive damage to a small car.
 
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
That being said, it still wouldn't prevent those vehicles, due to sheer mass, from doing extensive damage to a small car.


I always choose my cars based on how much damage they will do to smaller vehicles.
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Originally Posted By: moribundman
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
That being said, it still wouldn't prevent those vehicles, due to sheer mass, from doing extensive damage to a small car.


I always choose my cars based on how much damage they will do to smaller vehicles.
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I hadn't quite meant it that way, but thanks Mori
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I've seen a late model F250 hit by a motorcycle cut in half. Killed the driver of the truck and seriously hurt the passenger. The motor cycle driver was dead on impact.

People feeling that they are safe because they drive xx brand or xx model are fooling themselves.

Paying attention and driving safe will be the best bet no matter what you operate.

But accidents do happen and people do get hurt... IN ANY VEHICLE.
 
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah


People feeling that they are safe because they drive xx brand or xx model are fooling themselves.


True. But certain vehicles simply have horrible safety ratings, like GM's J-body and the Dodge Neon. Vehicles that are far more likely to result in occupant fatality than other vehicles.

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Paying attention and driving safe will be the best bet no matter what you operate.

But accidents do happen and people do get hurt... IN ANY VEHICLE.



For sure. Agreed 100%.
 
Originally Posted By: Ryan02SS
I can believe it. My GF has an 03 Passat with the 1.8T engine. Stupid F****** VW dealer did oil changes for 30K miles with regular 5w30 and not the VW501 5W-40 Syn spec and caused sludge buildup. I've since addressed that problem but it still has a alot of mechanical and electrical issues. Leaking sunroof, two bad CV boots before 40K miles. Brake switch dead twice. It's started to have a slight miss at cold and warm idle now. All under 45K miles.


You bring up a great point. The JD Powers survey of 3-year-old cars tells you a little bit about vehicle reliability, but it tells you a lot about the quality of dealerships. When the dealerships can't fix simple problems on the 1st or 2nd or 3rd service visit, then no wonder the customers are complaining.

Volkswagens are great cars, well engineered and manufactured. Then they get shipped to the US were all the good VW mechanics work for independent shops because they sick and tired of the [censored] that goes on at the dealerships.

If you own a VW, find a good independent shop. If you're thinking about buying a VW, find a good independent shop BEFORE you buy, because you do NOT want to be dependent on a VW dealer for anything... except maybe parts, if you need them right away, and maybe a warranty issue if it's something really expensive. But after the warranty, stay far far away.
 
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
Ever hear of the foreign trade deficit?

The trade deficit is approximately the same as the current account deficit. And the CCA is approximately the same MAGNITUDE as the capital account surplus.

For the last 25 years the US has had a large and growing capital account surplus because the US was the best country in the world to invest, and because the US dollar was the best currency as a medium of exchange and a store of value.

Unless something very surprising happens in the next year, the capital account surplus is going to disappear as foreigners draw down their American holdings and repatriate their investments. Practically by definition, this is going to shrink the current account deficit and the trade deficit.
 
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
But there's a reason: people make excuses because they like the car. Those "high maintenance" imports are good to drive, and are usually still good to drive even when they're busted. By contrast, domestics in recent history have been mediocre to drive even when they work perfectly.


Purely subjective. Absolutely no facts.

True, but this is one of those cases where all the subjective reviews and all the anecdotal evidence is in agreement. There are 10-year-old cars with 200k miles which are a pleasure to drive, and there are new cars which are fine for commuting but you would not want to drive further than 100 miles in them.

Now, which auto makers build cars in the first category, and which build cars in the second?
 
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