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QuadDriver,
I didn't intend to reply regading this issue again, because I felt this was a lost cause. However, I need to clarify a few things, because I don't like to be misquoted.
I dont understand....you first told me that there were a plethora of big merc, porsche engines on the road - what ever a plethora is. Then you told me there were what 50% hipo luxury cars and you TOLD ME to 'look up the numbers' I did, and they backed what I first stated - the europeans drive just as mundane cars as we do, 'cept they have 1/3 the engine size.
A plethora is a "large amount." Yes, there's a large amount of MB, BMW, etc. If you consider the population of Germany, Germans drive a proportionally larger amount of German cars than lets's say Americans. Nowhere did I say they drove 50% hipo luxuray cars there. That's misrepresentiation on your part (Actually, in the rural town of Dingolfing, almost everyone does drive a BMW, because practically the whole town's employed in the BMW plant). If you had ANY clue, then you'd know that most people do NOT buy the luxury version of a German car there. I bet that half of all MB are bread and butter versions, not as meager equipped as the omnipresent MB taxi, but a far cry from a fully loaded version. An MB or BMW is not necessarily a status symbol in Germany. For crying out loud, the 3 series is a popular police car! Mundane or not, that wasn't the point in our little argument. You just keep shifting the topic from speed limits to small engines to tires to whatever it takes to avoid digging yourself in any deeper.
then you tell me you see what you saw (which I dont doubt) and we got onto the topic of A/S tires somehow not existing , and when I mentioned the european advertising from 2 companies that do biz there, you go off on me again... whats up with that?
M+S tires are NOT the same thing as M+S tires in Germany. M+S tires are full-blown snow tires in Germany (I will not speak for other European countries for an admitted lack of knowledge). Read German car magazines, I recommend 'Auto Motor Sport' or the cheap "AutoBild" (You can get both at Borders and Barnes and Nobles), and see their tire tests. You might see an occasional all season tire, but it won't be rated M+S, and it won't get anythig than a marginal rating. Just because a company offers a product in different markets, doesn't mean the product has everywhere the same specs or the same product line.
No, I have not been to germany. That is neither a badge of honor nor a dirge of shame.
Well, you were the one who used your German friend as authoritative support for your false claims (Despite the fact I had said the same thing she said!!!). I never said having been there was a badge of honor, but speaking based on hearsay is arrogant and silly.
however, being a 'car guy' one who does not just go 'coool man a chevelle heh heh', I follow them worldwide, memorize silly things like shop manuals and tsbs and occasionally take them apart and reassemble them - sometimes even using ALL the parts! Somewhere else around I here I threw out the name 'lupo' and from the responses I get giving grief, Id bet that WITHOUT everyone firing up a google seach or equiv, no one would know what the heck I was talking about.
It's "Lupo", and yes, I'm familiar with it while you've only heard of it. You just admitted to silly name-dropping, and to what point (A Lupo, I shiver in me boots, laddie!)? Bait? You want to drag this "discussion" out endlessly, don't you? I pity you.
You said the facts speak for themselves. Well yes, I agree wholeheartedly about that.
Fact is you speak about things you shouldn't be speaking about unless you know about them. Being an "expert" in one field doesn't make you automatically an "expert" in some other area.
PS: Feel free to keep going with this, shifting the topic on your own accord. As the kids say, "talk to the hand!"
