You have Valvoline Restore and Protect 10W-40!! Why are you looking a gift horse in the mouth here??
Varnish Clean up (3MZ-FE under valve cover pic)
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Proves absolutely nothing about this oil completely removing all varnish from the inside of an engine which was the original point made that I wanted a source for. But thanks for trying.
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People still want to say it's snake oil and marketing despite all the unaffiliated posts about it working.
Why can't people accept something new? I did a search for forum threads on this oil and everyone has one or more saying it can't do it, it's fake, it's marketing, V oil xxxx. They're the types that think everything is conspiracy too.
Why can't people accept something new? I did a search for forum threads on this oil and everyone has one or more saying it can't do it, it's fake, it's marketing, V oil xxxx. They're the types that think everything is conspiracy too.
It's pretty baffling, isn't it? You'd think all the lab photos, lab videos etc. would be sufficient. Some have an axe to grind, some are in denial for unknown reason and some are just dumb.
As far as "complete" varnish removal, I doubt anything can remove varnish 100% in all areas of the engine. We do know that Valvoline Restore and Protect (as well as other oils) does remove varnish. FWIW, I think the OP's valvetrain looks good, and would personally stay the course with the same oil.
After two intervals:
@panthermike Right, the original claim was that if the OP kept using Valvoline Restore and Protect, the varnish would go away. Which has never been proven that I know of.
Totally understand and agreed that we haven't seen evidence of "complete" removal.
My 2001 5VZ at 255K. 3K OC, Castrol conventional 1st 150k or so then Mobil 1, now Valvoline Valvolineoline Restore and Protect for 1000 miles or so.
To what degree is varnish bad/harmful to the engine?
Castrol dye. Replace valve cover. Delete pictures. Sleep restfully.
I'm sorry that progressive photos showing varnish removal and oil filters loaded with carbon to match it isn't good enough for you. Not sure what you're looking for. You should also look at the Valvoline videos showing impressive varnish removal on an engine run for 500k on conventional.
@DV0993 you didn't do the Valvoline Restore and Protect a proper chance to work. Obviously, Valvoline Restore and Protect will do the cleanup if you stick to it and follow the proper procedures. Valvoline says to run no less than four 4000-mile intervals before you may START to see some noticeable visual clean up. You figure that out, that is a minimum of 16,000 miles of V&P usage before you might notice a difference in varnish build-up. They don't claim that your engine interior will be spotless at that point, 16,000 miles,
they say you MIGHT see an improvement by then. There is a lot of documentation and visual proof now showing it does work, but it does take time. You could use the Valvoline Restore and Protect as your forever oil, stretch your intervals out and after 50,000 miles of use, your engine guts will probably be spotless, within reason. The deposit removal and clean up thing of the Valvoline Restore and Protect is just a fortunate side effect of using it. The Valvoline Restore and Protect is the best gasoline engine oil they sell, according to Valvoline themselves. It has a decent additive package and can be used full time from the day your engine is brand new until it goes to the junk yard. You gave up on it too soon. I do sound like a Valvoline fanboy here, but you didn't give it a fair chance, follow the instructions. It has done exactly what you are looking for, for many now, and it is well documented, even on video in some cases. It doesn't magically repair broken piston rings, scored cylinder walls or worn-out valve seals. It does clean-up and prevent piston ring deposits, freeing up stuck rings in some cases allowing for less oil consumption and restored compression, than before it's use. It will also clean the varnish build up in engines, with proper time. This is already proven.
The post that you replied to was for me looking for a source to back another poster’s claim that if they keep using Valvoline Restore and Protect that the varnish will go away. I was looking for proof that this oil can completely remove all engine varnish. Then you posted (presumably as proof since you quoted me) a video of carbon in a filter. Absolutely nothing to do with varnish in an engine. I am not disputing that it can clean carbon. I am not even disputing that it can clean varnish. But I am saying I have seen no proof that it can completely remove all engine varnish.
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It causes ring sticking which can reduce compression and increase oil consumption, increasing fuel consumption and decrease performance, it can slow or stick actuators, impairs thermal transfer...etc. It's undesirable.
It's possible but could take significantly longer to remove. Varnish caught early can absolutely be removed. If it's been there a long time it will be extremely stubborn.
Nobody wants you to bare anything, trust me.
But your contributions to this thread have been unsubstantiated bashing without having used the product and having made your point, your participation, which comes across as trolling, or bickering, is no longer welcome.
Amsoil has served me well over the years since 2004. I go no more than 10K. Typically 5500-7500 miles. Yes I know Mobil 1 is in the Tundra and Valvoline Restore and Protect is in the Ford.
Apologies! I mistakenly posted the loaded filter video, not the engine photos. I thought he included the before and after photos of the engine in that video, too, but you're correct, it was just the loaded up filter.
Here are some photos.
Here's the video I meant to post.
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